THT agreeing to sit out kind of hints he's going to opt in and that him and the FO are on the same page? IF I was thinking about opting out no way would I pass up on an opportunity to put up numbers on a tanking team.
Its sort of weird since I dont know if he is guaranteed as many minutes with us next year so best $$$ move would likely be to opt out and get the next bag based on this years play.THT agreeing to sit out kind of hints he's going to opt in and that him and the FO are on the same page? IF I was thinking about opting out no way would I pass up on an opportunity to put up numbers on a tanking team.
We tried pretty hard but didn't get grimy enough. The sacramento and Boston games are a couple that stand out but there were like 2-3 close games we should have lost but pulled out a win... wonder if we appeal to the league if we can get those wins expunged from our record.Why couldn’t we have lost just 2 more games? We would have improved to like the 5th pick.
Could someone explain that to me?
Why couldn’t we have lost just 2 more games? We would have improved to like the 5th pick.
Could someone explain that to me?
Wonder why this narrative keeps going?Why couldn’t we have lost just 2 more games? We would have improved to like the 5th pick.
Could someone explain that to me?
I love how you keeping acting like the Conley, Beasley and Vandy trade wasn't pure tank. The problem is that THT stepped up and played better than Conley and Ochai stepped up and played better than Beasley. Then you add a 10 day contract in Kris Dunn that has played out of his mind and looked like every bit of the top 5 pick that he was.Love how people keep convincing themself this org was ever really trying to tank even after all the trades, it never happened until the Finnisher got hurt, and they threw in the towel.
We have def been tanking these last 4, so maybe if lucky nobody 10-14 will jump over us, thats about it.
Having the 9 pretty much locked up and maybe the Wolves pick if the lose out could be enough ammo to move up a couple spots for Hawkins. wink wink
What drugs are you on to think THT has outplayed Conley?I love how you keeping acting like the Conley, Beasley and Vandy trade wasn't pure tank. The problem is that THT stepped up and played better than Conley and Ochai stepped up and played better than Beasley. Then you add a 10 day contract in Kris Dunn that has played out of his mind and looked like every bit of the top 5 pick that he was.
Ok, so getting rid of current rotaion players at the time of the deadline, that they clearly had no interest in retaining past this season, were only traded to tank?I love how you keeping acting like the Conley, Beasley and Vandy trade wasn't pure tank. The problem is that THT stepped up and played better than Conley and Ochai stepped up and played better than Beasley. Then you add a 10 day contract in Kris Dunn that has played out of his mind and looked like every bit of the top 5 pick that he was.
I get it that there were tanking motivations behind the trade but it was far from "pure tank". Drop from Beasley to Ochai and Vando to Jones wasnt significant and we had a logjam of guards behind Conley (at that point they were also all healthy).I love how you keeping acting like the Conley, Beasley and Vandy trade wasn't pure tank. The problem is that THT stepped up and played better than Conley and Ochai stepped up and played better than Beasley. Then you add a 10 day contract in Kris Dunn that has played out of his mind and looked like every bit of the top 5 pick that he was.
‘Tank lite’ is the term you’re looking for.I get it that there were tanking motivations behind the trade but it was far from "pure tank". Drop from Beasley to Ochai and Vando to Jones wasnt significant and we had a logjam of guards behind Conley (at that point they were also all healthy).
I said at the time that development and cap were the main reasons for the trade and that we didnt do enough to tank properly and it looks like a pretty good statement also in hindsight.
The term ‘tank lite’ should end all tanking disagreements amongst fans.
Tankers are upset as we only got to 9h worst.. so we didn’t really tank.
Non-tankers are upset since we didn’t make the playoffs, or even the play in… so we weren’t really playing to win.
No one wins.
Everyone loses.
Somewhere Ainge is grinning with joy.
The best case was always us making the playoff and the Wolves gifting us a high lottery pick. When that didn't happen the lesser or 2 evils was the prize.The term ‘tank lite’ should end all tanking disagreements amongst fans.
Tankers are upset as we only got to 9h worst.. so we didn’t really tank.
Non-tankers are upset since we didn’t make the playoffs, or even the play in… so we weren’t really playing to win.
No one wins.
Everyone loses.
Somewhere Ainge is grinning with joy.
Yeah but we could have not tank-lite and just tanked a few more games we could have easily gotten to the 5th pick at least.Quite the opposite. I the the pro-tank fans are extremely happy we managed to get to 9th and possibly tied for 8th. The two worst outcomes would have been making the playoffs as the 7/8 and losing in the first round and the worst would be losing in the play-in tournament.
I’m still scratching my head as to why Ainge didn't do what Portland did.The Jazz tanked in the sense that they got rid of key players who helped them win games. Then they effectively shut down Clarkson and Sexton with 15 or so games to go. However, the players that were active played hard and played to win.
This year was very unusual because teams were bunched together so tightly in the standings. From a tanking perspective, the Jazz could lose a handful of games within a span of 2 weeks and drop from the 5th seed down to the 11th seed. Only the most minimal tanking was required to get a top-10 pick this year. As it turned out, the Jazz had a few flukey wins over teams like Boston, Sacramento and OKC that I'm sure Ainge would have preferred to lose. Just a few more losses, and the Jazz would be looking at a top 6 or 7 pick, which would all but ensure getting Walker, Whitmore or a Thompson.
I'm guessing the Jazz would like to be sitting where the Blazers are, but Portland beat us to the punch when they shut down Dame.
I’m still scratching my head as to why Ainge didn't do what Portland did.
A few more games ain't gonna make any of our players that much better next year.
So is it pride?
Is it not wanting to draw negative attention to ourselves?
Not wanting to skirt the NBA tanking rules?
What is it?