I liked Carrington ok out of the draft, but I think I prefer Collier to him as a PG prospect. It's very close though.
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I liked Carrington ok out of the draft, but I think I prefer Collier to him as a PG prospect. It's very close though.
Well his shot pushed us into the #1 lottery odds spot. If we win the lottery from that spot it means it was thanks to him.
You think so? I think his rep is tarnished. Vet minimum guy to me.
50/39 shooting splits with 17 PPG....
To be honest I didn’t think his numbers were that good. In that case he can suit up for us maybe we can rehab his value and trade him when his contract is expiring.
Beal was extremely good at the start of the year. He had bought in to a defensive play maker role and was somehow thriving in that role and the Suns got off to a great start. I'm really not sure what happened, but you can kind of see it in his stats:
October: 2.8stocks per game +/- of +0.3
November: 1.8 stocks per game +/- of -2.4
December : 1.5 stocks per game +/- of -8.9
(March he only averaged 0.7 stocks per game and was a -9.7)
Beal's problem, as I understand it, isn't that he is a bad player, but just that he is taking usage away from players better than him, while not providing enough other things to justify his extremely large contract that can't be moved because of his no trade clause. In other words he's still good, but his contract is the problem.
(FWIW I haven't listened to the pod yet, so this might not be relevant)
October: 2.8stocks per game +/- of +0.3
November: 1.8 stocks per game +/- of -2.4
December : 1.5 stocks per game +/- of -8.9
(March he only averaged 0.7 stocks per game and was a -9.7)
Beal's problem, as I understand it, isn't that he is a bad player, but just that he is taking usage away from players better than him, while not providing enough other things to justify his extremely large contract that can't be moved because of his no trade clause. In other words he's still good, but his contract is the problem.
(FWIW I haven't listened to the pod yet, so this might not be relevant)
I didn't listen either, but I would add that his issue is magnified by the team he plays for. Like out of all the teams in the NBA, PHX is easily one of the worst fits in the league. They have Booker and Durant to create offense. You can't really have three guys who want to play that way. He's gotten older and probably lost a step, but he's probably still one of the better high usage creators in the league if he's in that role. He's not $55M good, but minimum is ridiculous.
I also wouldn't look at anyone in this PHX situation and make too much of a judgement on them. It's a **** show.
Jaanipoeg
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The only way for the Wiz to get the 6th pick is for us to get the 5th pick, so I guess some comedic relief but I'll mostly just be sad
So if Wiz win the #1 pick, it was thanks to him -- and it will be the shot that we rue the rest of our living days? (Maybe along with the Hardy timeout to that led to waving off Sexton's shot against the Jazz, and a couple other shots throughout the season that could have given us the #2 spot if they turned out differently)
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Thee Jazz Fan
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Explain to me why we’d get 5 if they get 6?
Jaanipoeg
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If the Wizards get top 4 then they were won it in the lottery
If they get #5, then they didn't win the lottery but the Jazz did so they have the worst record when we switch to order at #5
If they get #6, then neither of us won top 4, but we still have a worse record so we get 5 and they get 6
Collier has been nice, not trying to shoot strays. But an extremely young ~6’ 5” PG mid-range master with solid indicators that he will extend his range and excelled in a major conference is a really nice piece to have. Seems like we’ve been having a continuous conversation about adding a big ballhandling guard to allow smaller scoring guards to stay on the floor for forever now. I am a little frustrated we keep leaving players on the shelf that could help answer that, seemingly, perpetual issue.