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Jazz a middling franchise?

Also, most drafts people whine about how the Jazz missed on some guy...

Last year we got arguably the 3rd best prospect from the draft with the 14 + 18th picks. Trey is no Durant, but we maximized value when we can and eventually it has to pay off.

Also, we snagged Gobert and his huge... 'triomphe'. It was a weak draft and we did about as good as you could do with our picks.
 
green said:
Whoa nelly. Slow down there boy. It's time to dust off the ol' old site skills and go S2M on you here.



Who is whining. All I did was state some facts. It is what it is. Since Utah let Boozer walk, the organization hasn't really made a correct move.



Please show me where I said drafting Exum was a mistake? I've been very supportive of the pick. I'm the one telling people to pretend Exum isn't on the team, because he will suck this year. You can't judge him for another 3-4 years. It was a great pick. BUT, if Exum doesn't pan out...

That's what I am saying. Exum is still a HUGE risk. He could turn out to be Penny Hardaway...or...uh, that really talented guy who was drafted top 5 but didn't pan out.



Forcing Sloan out (or allowing a player to force Sloan out), trading Deron for not much, taking Kanter over Thompson and Leonard (yeah, I get other teams passed them over as well, but good franchises don't. There is a reason why SA traded for Leonard. They are a good franchise). Letting Boozer go for nothing, letting Matthews go for nothing, holding onto Al and Paul for too long, or maybe letting Paul go for nothing. We know Millsap is a better player than Favors or Kanter, and we let him walk for nothing. Signing Hayward to a max. Keeping Corbin and letting Horny go for nothing.

What out of that group of decisions shows you Utah is a good franchise?



Absolutely. And sometimes you don't tempt fate by making a string of horrible decisions.




I hope you are right. Because if you are wrong, we are Minnesota or Sacramento. Lots of young talent and lots of losses.
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You want to know what makes me think this is a good franchise?!?! Basically everything you complained about i like except the Burke trade. Hated it when the trade was announced.

So basically this org is headed in the right direction because you feel otherwise! Rome wasn't built in a day us know. I don't really think you understand the business of the NBA and what a crapshoot it is.

Oh and one thing you said that bothers me is you criticizing the Jazz for taking Kanter over Thompson and Leonard. No one team in the NBA would've taken either over Thompson over Kanter. He was considered a top 3-5 pick by everyone. That's just stupidity on your part.


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The Jazz Wonderbra said:
Also, most drafts people whine about how the Jazz missed on some guy...

Last year we got arguably the 3rd best prospect from the draft with the 14 + 18th picks. Trey is no Durant, but we maximized value when we can and eventually it has to pay off.

Also, we snagged Gobert and his huge... 'triomphe'. It was a weak draft and we did about as good as you could do with our picks.
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Getting Burke is the one thing or one decision I didn't, and still don't like. He is what I thought he was before the draft. A guy who would be an undersized un athletic middle of the draft prospect. And he's looking like it


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The OP linked only to an article that rates San Antonio number one. It says nothing whatsoever about Utah. We are complaining that the Jazz are rated as middling and we don't even know anything about their rating? How about linking to the article that rates the Jazz?
 
Joe Bagadonuts said:
The OP linked only to an article that rates San Antonio number one. It says nothing whatsoever about Utah. We are complaining that the Jazz are rated as middling and we don't even know anything about their rating? How about linking to the article that rates the Jazz?
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Yeah I'm really curious to see how they assess their ratings.

As far as I'm aware, the Jazz are involved in their communities moreso than most other franchises that I know of. The Jazz have a Utah-wide representation during the summers, and I'm always impressed.
 
My only complaint over the last few years is that we didn't move from Jefferson fast enough. He should have been traded.

Also, we should have done better with the tank job.

I like the idea of a slow rebuild through the draft. Which the Jazz have done. It could have been a little better, but not much.

Overall I'm happy and super excited for next season and beyond. I think we'll be good and in the playoffs for years to come. Will we win the Championship? Probably not, who knows though, maybe.
 
Hack said:
My only complaint over the last few years is that we didn't move from Jefferson fast enough. He should have been traded.

Also, we should have done better with the tank job.

I like the idea of a slow rebuild through the draft. Which the Jazz have done. It could have been a little better, but not much.

Overall I'm happy and super excited for next season and beyond. I think we'll be good and in the playoffs for years to come. Will we win the Championship? Probably not, who knows though, maybe.
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The organization did a terrible job finding leadership to fill the power vacuum created when LHM died and then Sloan retired. That's not an easy thing from which to recover, but, all things considered, I still give them a low grade. Hopefully Lindsey and Snyder are the real deal. There's a lot riding on that.
 
Joe Bagadonuts said:
The OP linked only to an article that rates San Antonio number one. It says nothing whatsoever about Utah. We are complaining that the Jazz are rated as middling and we don't even know anything about their rating? How about linking to the article that rates the Jazz?
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They changed my link. If in the future something is interesting enough for you to write a paragraph about how there is not a correct link, perhaps you should use your fat little fingers and look yourself.

https://espn.go.com/sportsnation/teamrankings/_/sport/nba#table
 
I think the Jazz are in good shape going forward, in part because I really believe in Exum, Burks, Kanter and Gobert. I also believe the management is all pulling in the same direction.

I would be open to trading Hayward.
 
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