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Jazz and Knicks discussing Donovan Mitchell trade per Shams Charania and Tony Jones

The Jazz's best way to make New York reconsider their trade package:

  1. Tell NYK they are keeping Mitchell with the idea of a 1 year tank into a rebuild
  2. Draft Victor #1
  3. Trade Clarkson/Bogey/Gay all off the team to maximize assets and cap room for 2023
  4. Sign max free agents. Go out and overpay for Khris Middleton and Andrew Wiggins.
  5. Compete

Obviously a lot of **** has to go right for this to work, but it at least is something the Jazz can legitimately act like they are doing and NYK will have to respect it.
 
The Jazz's best way to make New York reconsider their trade package:

  1. Tell NYK they are keeping Mitchell with the idea of a 1 year tank into a rebuild
  2. Draft Victor #1
  3. Trade Clarkson/Bogey/Gay all off the team to maximize assets and cap room for 2023
  4. Sign max free agents. Go out and overpay for Khris Middleton and Andrew Wiggins.
  5. Compete

Obviously a lot of **** has to go right for this to work, but it at least is something the Jazz can legitimately act like they are doing and NYK will have to respect it.

We are going to go through all of this just to make the Knicks give us a better package?
 
Haven't they tried doing this already? I think the problem is nobody believes the Heat can actually offer that kind of package. How do they get to five firsts while keeping Herro available for another trade? I haven't seen anything more convincing than a "Pat Riley black magic" argument.
Eh. Getting LeBron and Bosh to put together their big three, trading for Dragic and Lowry, plus getting a pretty good deal for Jimmy Butler probably help to perpetuate that myth. Miami always seems to be able to pull off some sort of deal.

They’ve drafted okay, but they clearly stake their organizational reputation on being able to bring in quality free agents because it’s Miami. And that seems to be a legit thing. I would hate to count on Miami bottoming out for maximum trade value. Betting on the Knicks (or TWolves or Kings) is a much safer deal.
 
We are going to go through all of this just to make the Knicks give us a better package?
I mean, we are doing the tanking part either way. If it works, the Knicks will up the package before the trade deadline and the off-season signings wont need to happen.

A lot of **** just has to go right for that to work.

IF we get Middleton/Wiggins/Victor Wenby (there's a decent amount of good free agents next year, and we have a ton of assets to trade) and use our Rudy Gobert trade assets to get another piece is Donovan going to leave that? IF Victor is generational would that keep Donovan here?

If the Jazz can maintain a bottom 5 record with Don because of a shameless tank, NYK has to be worried that us getting Victor, the guy everyone is calling the next generational prospect, would keep Donovan in Utah.
 
No, the problem is that you spam your side over and over to every single person who disagrees with it and won't let a single conversation continue without interjecting your side at every possible break.

There's a reason why so many people expressed the sentiment that conversations around here were amazing during the week you were banned. Because you weren't here to derail them.
Oh, so I don't spin stuff? What is it MT? Lost in your lies?

Let me guess - the conversations were amazing because you all got to agree about your "not so hidden" hate for Donovan Mitchell.

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The Jazz's best way to make New York reconsider their trade package:

  1. Tell NYK they are keeping Mitchell with the idea of a 1 year tank into a rebuild
  2. Draft Victor #1
  3. Trade Clarkson/Bogey/Gay all off the team to maximize assets and cap room for 2023
  4. Sign max free agents. Go out and overpay for Khris Middleton and Andrew Wiggins.
  5. Compete

Obviously a lot of **** has to go right for this to work, but it at least is something the Jazz can legitimately act like they are doing and NYK will have to respect it.
I call this "Lopo's Wildest Dream" scenario.

If I could guarantee this would happen, I would actually prefer it to straight tanking without Donovan tbh. It's just a small needle to thread.
 
If you even thought you had that power, you'd have it put on your headstone. "Singlehandedly rode Spida out of town!" - Dwillpwnasaurausrex
I never implied Cy or Ballislife Cy had any power whatsoever.


A loud segment of the fanbase gives us a bad name. Its why we get mocked.

It's one thing to be critical. Every fanbase has tough fans. Jazz fans just have an unusually high ratio of ignorant critical fans with loud mouths that clutch to hate of something within the organization at all times.

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