You said if we get the 5th worst record but don’t jump into the top-4 we fall to 9th. That’s not true unless 4 teams from 6-14 jump you. If 3 teams from the top-4 stay in the top-4 you are worst fall to 6th.
Jazz and Knicks discussing Donovan Mitchell trade per Shams Charania and Tony Jones
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You said if we get the 5th worst record but don’t jump into the top-4 we fall to 9th. That’s not true unless 4 teams from 6-14 jump you. If 3 teams from the top-4 stay in the top-4 you are worst fall to 6th.
For who? Middleton and Wiggins? That enough to get Mitchell to commit long-term?
Do we want the privilege of giving him a super max and then turning into Portland and Washington?
I mean, plus you have all the assets from the Rudy trade and whatever assets you can continue to get by trading players like Clarkson/Bogey/Conley.
If you really think Donovan is a top 20 player who can continue to improve it's a thing you can do.
I think that team is probably significantly better than whatever the Knicks can create in the next 3 years.
That team isn’t winning a championship with Donovan on a super max. That is a half *** retool I don’t even consider that a rebuild.
Oh, right. Hadn’t thought about how that would change the order after the 5th pick, fair.
But the overarching principle has some merit: it’s not just about the lottery. And I feel like the middle part of the lottery is the most torturous part of the treadmill if you don’t have internal ways to improve, which the Jazz won’t if they don’t nail some picks in the coming years.
Yeah, so you dont think Donovan is a top 20 player who is improving then.
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if it was about basketball he'd want to go to the heat instead of the Knicks. He isn't gonna stick around. Will only play along so long. Why keep him and build around him if he isn't a top 20 guy... cash out.
Keeping Mitchell could be the difference between the best odds and the 5th best odds.
I mean, I dont think we truly know where Donovan would rather go between those two. Things could change significantly in 3 years, which is why NYK should want to get it done sooner rather than later.
It's not even about the odds of moving up in the lottery. It's about being bad enough so that even if 4 other teams jump us in the lottery, we still have a top-5 pick in a draft with Wemby, Scoot, two Thompsons, Nick Smith and Cam Whitmore.
Yes, so why should we keep Mitchell?
Word on the street is that Donovan does prefer Miami. He and Bam are close friends. They can win with Jimmy Butler, then they can recruit Jaylen Brown in two years. Plus, he seems to like the beach.