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Elizah Huge

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I think Russ will likely not give back a lot or any. Blake had a wide market. Russ has little to no market unless he chills the hell out and shows he can be a bench guy. He may be able to repair his value but it will require eating so much pride... to date he has shown zero ability to do that. He may have to sit out for a year to get his head in the right space for the next phase of his career like Melo did.

That is why I said theoretically he could give up salary. Not saying he will but I wouldn’t be surprised if he did give up some.
 


idiot

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I think Russ will likely not give back a lot or any. Blake had a wide market. Russ has little to no market unless he chills the hell out and shows he can be a bench guy. He may be able to repair his value but it will require eating so much pride... to date he has shown zero ability to do that. He may have to sit out for a year to get his head in the right space for the next phase of his career like Melo did.
Blake had also been languishing in Detroit for a couple/few years and was very likely eager just to find a contender to play for. I don't think Russ will be there in his thought process (at least for several months).
 

Elizah Huge

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Blake had also been languishing in Detroit for a couple/few years and was very likely eager just to find a contender to play for. I don't think Russ will be there in his thought process (at least for several months).

We could say fine then you’re sitting on the bench if he plays hardball.
 

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Blake had also been languishing in Detroit for a couple/few years and was very likely eager just to find a contender to play for. I don't think Russ will be there in his thought process (at least for several months).
The way his long time agent threw him under the bus is telling. He isn't ready for what is coming next and it may end up being the end of his career.
 

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Couldn't we just play Westbrook for 1/2 the year and then trade his expiring deal at the trade deadline for even more picks and some decent young players that aren't stars? At least we would get something else for him rather than throw away $40+ million for nothing and I doubt he prevents the tank anyway. We know how much he loves our fans, so that could be entertaining too.
 

idiot

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Couldn't we just play Westbrook for 1/2 the year and then trade his expiring deal at the trade deadline for even more picks and some decent young players that aren't stars? At least we would get something else for him rather than throw away $40+ million for nothing and I doubt he prevents the tank anyway. We know how much he loves our fans, so that could be entertaining too.
Nobody's trading anything of value for Westbrook.
 

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We could say fine then you’re sitting on the bench if he plays hardball.
We could... I think the sooner you deal with something like that the better. Tell his agent all you want is like a taxpayer MLE type giveback... then they tell you vet min (which would actually be like 3M+ for Russ I think)... you tell him he doesn't need to show up but you might use his expiring contract in a trade so you will wait if he doesn't give a little more back. If he has an offer somewhere I can see us shaving around 5M... dude still gets sponsor money so having him not on the court would be rough for that part of the biz. Somewhere in the 3-6M is where I'd bet we land and it would depend on what offers he had at the time.
 

idiot

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Not for him, but maybe for 2-3 months of his expiring contract to make room for someone else.
You mean you want to take on Julius Randle's 4- year contract?

Actually that wouldn't even do it, since Randle only earns about half of what Westbrook does. But the basic idea is the same. We'd only get assets back for Westbrook at the deadline if we took on an/a set of egregiously large and long contracts. I don't think we have that in mind. Could be wrong, however. As they say, you have to spend the money somewhere.
 

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You mean you want to take on Julius Randle's 4- year contract?

Actually that wouldn't even do it, since Randle only earns about half of what Westbrook does. But the basic idea is the same. We'd only get assets back for Westbrook at the deadline if we took on an/a set of egregiously large and long contracts. I don't think we have that in mind. Could be wrong, however. As they say, you have to spend the money somewhere.
About the only guys I could see us needing a deal that big would be like Tobias Harris, Zinger, or Hayward... and all would need like one more mid sized deal to matchup. Expiring contracts in the teens are much more useful for taking on bad salary.
 


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