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Jazz and Knicks discussing Donovan Mitchell trade per Shams Charania and Tony Jones

My expectations are having something worth watching. I don't think that's a high expectation for a professional basketball team, but to each their own.

That doesn't even mean winning. What it does mean is having at least one player who's potential is higher than Quentin Grimes. No offense to him as I'm sure he's a fine player and all.
It's either go through a rebuild 3 years from now with even fewer assets or start it now with a lot more.

Take your pick.
 
It's either go through a rebuild 3 years from now with even fewer assets or start it now with a lot more.

Take your pick.
This is real good. Very simplistic way to put it that cuts to its core.
 
Can't wait for the schedule release today and to find out who has leverage now... Knicks fans surely think that their early season schedule will give them leverage because of something. Book it.
 
Can't wait for the schedule release today and to find out who has leverage now... Knicks fans surely think that their early season schedule will give them leverage because of something. Book it.

I’m feeling like we should tell them to beat Miami’s offer or **** off.
 
Can't wait for the schedule release today and to find out who has leverage now... Knicks fans surely think that their early season schedule will give them leverage because of something. Book it.
Knicks going to lose a lot of games even if their schedule is "easy". There aren't many bad teams in the NBA.
 
Knicks going to lose a lot of games even if their schedule is "easy". There aren't many bad teams in the NBA.
Yes... but if its a murderers row to start the first 10 games or so it could benefit us to wait until in season. I just remember that Lakers team when they knew the AD trade was gonna happen and it hung over their young players like a black cloud. Same thing could happen and eventually there is panic... a 2-8 start and all the headlines are like "why didn't we do the Don trade again? To save a couple picks? To make sure we had Grimes?"

Of course if the season strays too far too fast maybe their 2023 pick becomes so valuable they won't move it... or they will assign too much value to it and we get less in the future.
 
I’m feeling like we should tell them to beat Miami’s offer or **** off.
If their offer is all the picks/swaps, Jovic, Herro and other stuff they can offer then sure. You just tell them that you value Herro a lot so that is worth a couple unprotected picks in your eyes... so beat that and don't eff around or we out.

I still wait a month before I get there but at some point pre-season you make a final call for good offers and decide to move Don or wait.
 
It's either go through a rebuild 3 years from now with even fewer assets or start it now with a lot more.

Take your pick.
If the assets don't include anyone worth watching this year (again, my standards aren't high...I'll settle for an Obi Toppin), then fine, do whatever, but it doesn't mean I have to watch this team this season.
 
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The perfidious Knicks fans on RealGM posted this lamentable image of Jazz-Knicks negotiators. Our emissary Daniel Ray Ainge declines all manner of such dress nor does he espouse North Korean sympathies. All of Edinburgh is aghast; verily, I almost spit out my sheepshead stew at the sight of this derangement.
 
If the assets don't include anyone worth watching this year (again, my standards aren't high...I'll settle for an Obi Toppin), then fine, do whatever, but it doesn't mean I have to watch this team this season.
Obi Toppi is the only player that I think has to be in the trade. It is a position of weakness for the Jazz and he would be fun to watch. I want Quickley more than Grimes and with their signing of Brunson, I could see them wanting to add Quickley more than grimes because Grimes has more size.

I like Reddish but that would not be a deal breaker if they did not want to add him. I know they want to keep their depth but his salary may be needed.

I want Fournier more than Rose as I think Fournier has more value to contending teams. Everyone wants more scoring off the bench.

I think adding Rudy Gay into the trade is a necessity. It would be a good bench add for the Knicks too.

If we take Quickley there is no need to add Duece McBride to the deal unless it is necessary for salary reasons.

Getting as many draft picks as DA can squeeze out but getting quality over quantity is more important.
 
It's either go through a rebuild 3 years from now with even fewer assets or start it now with a lot more.

Take your pick.
This is my concern. We have basically 2 seasons, since there no way we are a championship caliber team right now, to build a championship team and when Donovan leaves, we literally have nothing outside if high draft picks.
 
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