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Jazz and Knicks discussing Donovan Mitchell trade per Shams Charania and Tony Jones

Elizah Huge said:
In no circumstance should you walk from 6 total 1sts with 3 of them being unprotected. Let’s get real here.
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Isn’t that basically the deal I outlined?

As long as 3 of the picks are unprotected, I’m less concerned about taking back any of the other picks (outside the Wizards pick - which I think is garbage.)

23/25/27 unprotected picks
Dallas, Detroit and Milwaukee protected picks
One of the protected picks doesn’t have to be the 29 Knicks pick.
I’d still insist on a 28 pick swap and Toppin and Grimes.
 
What if we take 4 picks and let NY top 3 or 5 protect the first 3? Odds are they will need to come back and give us assets to unprotect them later anyway.
 
homeytennis said:
From Hoopsrumors: "If the Jazz don’t get an offer they like from the Knicks or one of those other potential trade partners, they’re comfortable entering the season with Mitchell on their roster. According to Jones, the club believes it’s in a good position to retool the roster around Mitchell and is more inclined to take that route than to accept “90 cents on the dollar” for the three-time All-Star."
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It's obvious the Jazz are using Tony to get the message out there that "they don't have to trade Donovan" and "they're comfortable keeping him and re-tooling around him" to try and put pressure on the Knicks to up their offer. It's all just posturing...they have no intention of actually re-tooling the roster around Donovan to try and be competitive, they're fully planning on a re-build.
 
Coach Ellis said:
Isn’t that basically the deal I outlined?

As long as 3 of the picks are unprotected, I’m less concerned about taking back any of the other picks (outside the Wizards pick - which I think is garbage.)

23/25/27 unprotected picks
Dallas, Detroit and Milwaukee protected picks
One of the protected picks doesn’t have to be the 29 Knicks pick.
I’d still insist on a 28 pick swap and Toppin and Grimes.
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Not really because you said the floor was the same as the Gobert deal which is 29 being top-5 protected and I think the Knicks don’t want to include that pick at all. That is the most valuable pick they own.
 
idiot said:
Curious why you keep thinking Sept. 6 is going to make a difference. I think it was easier to see with Beverley still on the Jazz, but do you have a specific (or fuzzy) scenario in mind that Beasley or Vanderbilt (or Bolmaro, for that matter) unlock?
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There will be more moves… I think everyone agrees there. Once everyone is eligible to be traded we can do the rest of our business… you kinda need to show the rest of your cards. Could be a lakers deal or some other move. I just think it turns up the urgency.

Vando signed with Klutch recently… Beasley has been mentioned with the Lakers… windy mentioned him today. I have some theories in the Lakers… maybe it’s not fully agreed to but I really think a Westbrook deal goes down. Nothing is currently preventing the Indiana deal from happening… it might be the preference and maybe lakers are hoping to do it with 1 pick or add some protections. They tell Indy they have a couple weeks to do a deal or they have another deal that opens up and they will take it.

I know everyone assumes we can rank with Don and the other moves don’t change things… but each move shows a few more cards. That date would also allow all parties to have close to final rosters a couple weeks before camp…

Might be wrong but I think it’s an important date.
 
framer said:
I'm beginning to see quite a bit of upside in that Dallas pick. I think they struggle a bit in the regular season.
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I think it’s lotto protected… or at least top 10.
 
Nothing to worry about. Sep 6th is the first date and training camp on Sep 23 is the second. Things will move soon and we'll see. I'm not excited to wait probably because European Championship start next week and i'm gonna cheer for Rudy and french team.
 
Jingled said:
It's obvious the Jazz are using Tony to get the message out there that "they don't have to trade Donovan" and "they're comfortable keeping him and re-tooling around him" to try and put pressure on the Knicks to up their offer. It's all just posturing...they have no intention of actually re-tooling the roster around Donovan to try and be competitive, they're fully planning on a re-build.
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Jake Fisher and Mike Scotto did a pod. They said the only name the Jazz have kicked around to improve the roster is sexton… they said if they actually did think that was a possibility they would have heard about them asking on someone and they haven’t heard anything. He was pretty clear that if it was happening he’d know about it.


This is why I would have been calling on vets like Theis and doing so loudly. Make some noise about Poeltl inquiries and such.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
Jake Fisher and Mike Scotto did a pod. They said the only name the Jazz have kicked around to improve the roster is sexton… they said if they actually did think that was a possibility they would have heard about them asking on someone and they haven’t heard anything. He was pretty clear that if it was happening he’d know about it.


This is why I would have been calling on vets like Theis and doing so loudly. Make some noise about Poeltl inquiries and such.
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Jazz should make some more down payments to Spurs and Pacers
 
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