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Jazz and Knicks discussing Donovan Mitchell trade per Shams Charania and Tony Jones

And with the worst record you are guaranteed no worse than the 5th pick. That's how I think about it. I'm not ****ing around about the tank.

On that point, yeah, RJ ain't taking the team to the playoffs, but is he the difference between having the worst record and or not?
He might take you from worst to 3rd or 4th worst. I just think if you can start with a building block that it is worth the small hit in pick percentages and that the lottery gods will reward us.
 
Nice little snippet from Sam Vecenie’s latest article on RJ:

After he recovered by the start of the 2022 portion of the season, though, Barrett went on a tear. He averaged 24 points, six rebounds and nearly four assists per game, he shot 35 percent from 3 on over six attempts per game, and he got to the line 7.5 times per game. It was the exact leap that was expected of him in the preseason. But because the Knicks were a disappointing 17-19 when the calendar turned over — and because there were other important developments such as Julius Randle’s regression — it went a bit more unnoticed than you’d think a clear breakout for a 21-year-old would.

Moreover, there were substantial stylistic changes from Barrett in the back half of last season. As The Athletic’s Fred Katz noted in a deep dive on Barrett in March, he made a mindset adjustment at that time. Long an aggressive driver toward the basket, we saw Barrett get even more assertive at attacking the rim. It was a lot of catch-and-shoot 3s, or it was an aggressive slash to the rim. From Jan. 1 onward, Barrett averaged 16.1 drives per game. He took 8.6 shots per game off those drives, the seventh-most in the NBA over that time.
 
At this point I would do Barrett, 3 protected, 1 unprotected, Toppin and IQ.

OR

Barrett, Toppin, IQ, 2 protected, 2 unprotected, and 3-4 2nds.
 
Donovan Mitchell is pissed with us right now that's why he scrubbed us. He clearly wants to be traded. Imagine Will Hardy trying to coach this year with his best player not wanting to be part of his rebuild.
Looks like you may have nailed it! I thought sure he was being traded to the Heat in an Ainge fit of rage! :p
 
The 2023-24 projected salary cap is 133M. The minimum team salary will be 119.7M.

If the recent streak of the salary cap going up by 10M continues then the 2024-25 projected salary cap will be around 143M meaning the minimum salary cap will be 128.7M.

Does anyone know currently what guaranteed salary we have going into the 2024-25 season? I’ll tell you… only Donovan at 34.85M.

Tell me again exactly why "we don’t want to spend money on anyone long-term" when we will literally have to pay players just to meet the minimum salary cap.

Then guess what going into the 2025-26 off-season the new TV deal will be struck and we are potentially looking at a 170M+ salary cap.
 
The 2023-24 projected salary cap is 133M. The minimum team salary will be 119.7M.

If the recent streak of the salary cap going up by 10M continues then the 2024-25 projected salary cap will be around 143M meaning the minimum salary cap will be 128.7M.

Does anyone know currently what guaranteed salary we have going into the 2024-25 season? I’ll tell you… only Donovan at 34.85M.

Tell me again exactly why "we don’t want to spend money on anyone long-term" when we will literally have to pay players just to meet the minimum salary cap.

Then guess what going into the 2025-26 off-season the new TV deal will be struck and we are potentially looking at a 170M+ salary cap.
RJ makes 27M a year on his extension... unless he is an all-star... then he makes 30M. Honestly wish there was one more year added to it. He just turned 22... He can be a building block and is under team control for 5 years.
 
The 2023-24 projected salary cap is 133M. The minimum team salary will be 119.7M.

If the recent streak of the salary cap going up by 10M continues then the 2024-25 projected salary cap will be around 143M meaning the minimum salary cap will be 128.7M.

Does anyone know currently what guaranteed salary we have going into the 2024-25 season? I’ll tell you… only Donovan at 34.85M.

Tell me again exactly why "we don’t want to spend money on anyone long-term" when we will literally have to pay players just to meet the minimum salary cap.

Then guess what going into the 2025-26 off-season the new TV deal will be struck and we are potentially looking at a 170M+ salary cap.
Also many times in tanking situations you take on one salary dump and then end up overpaying guys on one year deals to stay flexible. RJ is a great use of space... we will still have ample room for salary dumps.
 
RJ makes 27M a year on his extension... unless he is an all-star... then he makes 30M. Honestly wish there was one more year added to it. He just turned 22... He can be a building block and is under team control for 5 years.

At least there is no player option on year 4. That is a win. I do wish it was a 5-year deal myself as well.
 
Man, with all the iterations of trades that we've all thrown out here; when this thing actually happens, the amount of "I TOLD YOU SO!!" posts is going to be unbearable.
 
I don't get this. We don't exactly need the cap space, and I hardly see Fournier win a bunch of games on his own. Can't we just keep him? He's a solid player, he could even be worth something at some point. He might be negative value for NYK, I don't think he is for us.
The idea is to have nothing but G-League scrubs and promote a culture of losing. It's the Sacramento Kings model.
 
The 2023-24 projected salary cap is 133M. The minimum team salary will be 119.7M.

If the recent streak of the salary cap going up by 10M continues then the 2024-25 projected salary cap will be around 143M meaning the minimum salary cap will be 128.7M.

Does anyone know currently what guaranteed salary we have going into the 2024-25 season? I’ll tell you… only Donovan at 34.85M.

Tell me again exactly why "we don’t want to spend money on anyone long-term" when we will literally have to pay players just to meet the minimum salary cap.

Then guess what going into the 2025-26 off-season the new TV deal will be struck and we are potentially looking at a 170M+ salary cap.
There's a good chunk of Jazz Nation who, if rules would allow, would trot out a starting lineup of nothing but future 1st round picks next year. It's a bit odd.
 
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