Jazz and Knicks discussing Donovan Mitchell trade per Shams Charania and Tony Jones

[BENTLEY]

In spite of the tedium of twiddling thumbs, I’m happy if Ainge is being patient. Hoping he’s being patient. Jazz aren’t desperate. We know we can lose with DM and don’t mind that at all. He checked out last season. Good. Keep it up. Don’t move him until NYK’s patience gets the better of them. Love it.

 

[BENTLEY]

It appears the tank is on, with or without Mitchell. I approve.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

But if Trader Danny legit knows that putting Donovan in the worst possible scenario would actually strengthen his ability to bargain....

I don’t see that as all something he can control and I also see that scenario hurting his value as much as helping.

 

[Ferguson_Mellochill]

The fact the Jazz are asking for the moon and the Knicks haven't hung up the phone shows that a deal should get done.

Both teams should make it happen and move on.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

I just dont think Aigne is budging within the first month.

If a deal gets done its the Knicks meeting us more than it is us meeting them.

 

[idiot]

I’m just saying… the Heat package isn’t all that bad if they moved Lowry for a 1st…

Pick protections would need to be radically terrible on the NY offer for the Miami offer to be competitive with it.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

I just dont think Aigne is budging within the first month.

If a deal gets done its the Knicks meeting us more than it is us meeting them.

Maybe… patience is fine but I’d do days and weeks not months.

 

[Elizah Huge]

Do I think this would happen? No. Is it something I would do if we didn’t get what we wanted from the Knicks? Yes.

3-team deal with the Heat and Lakers

Donovan to Heat, Conley to Lakers

Heat send Herro/Jovic/Strus/Vincent to Jazz along with 23/27/29 1sts and 24/26/28 pick swaps. They send Robinson to Lakers.

Lakers send Westbrook to Jazz along with 27/29 1sts.

We end up buying out Westbrook. We don’t take on Robinson’s salary. We end up with:

Herro/Jovic/Strus/Vincent

Heat 23/27/29 1sts along with their 24/26/28 pick swap 1sts

Lakers 27/29 1sts

 

[Jazz Fusion]

Here is a dumb question: The Pacers had to waive four players for salary cap purposes in the Ayton offer sheet. Two were former Jazzmen. Can they unwaive them now or are they subject to being claimed by any team? If the Jazz are tanking, these might be four great tank commanders.

Who were the four?

 

[NUMBERICA]

Pick protections would need to be radically terrible on the NY offer for the Miami offer to be competitive with it.

I mean in a vacuum, the Miami godfather offer might be enough but in the presence of likely unprotected picks from easily one of the worst run organizations in the league with the record to show for it, it shouldn’t even be a question.

But if the Jazz can keep the talks with Miami, Brooklyn, and Phoenix alive then that greatly helps their case.

 

[idiot]

But if Trader Danny legit knows that putting Donovan in the worst possible scenario would actually strengthen his ability to bargain....

Are you saying that putting Donovan in a bad situation will increase his trade value? Or is this a CAA reference again?

 

[NUMBERICA]

Do I think this would happen? No. Is it something I would do if we didn’t get what we wanted from the Knicks? Yes.

3-team deal with the Heat and Lakers

Donovan to Heat, Conley to Lakers

Heat send Herro/Jovic/Strus/Vincent to Jazz along with 23/27/29 1sts and 24/26/28 pick swaps. They send Robinson to Lakers.

Lakers send Westbrook to Jazz along with 27/29 1sts.

We end up buying out Westbrook. We don’t take on Robinson’s salary. We end up with:

Herro/Jovic/Strus/Vincent

Heat 23/27/29 1sts along with their 24/26/28 1sts

Lakers 27/29 1sts

Lakers will need a lot more coming back but that’s fine since the Jazz are flush with win-now players and that’s what they need. Send whoever they want (besides Donovan, obviously) and try to get a ‘28 pick swap on top of it.