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Jazz and Knicks discussing Donovan Mitchell trade per Shams Charania and Tony Jones

Why won't this just happen already? Motherfuddpucker!!!
 
stitches said:
There is a REALLY simple way for the Knicks to make Barrett truly untouchable. And this is also the way to act like you actually value him at the level of an untouchable asset - give him the max.. NOW! You give him the max now and he's off the table automatically. But that's not what the Knicks are doing.
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Ideally I think they want to keep him and have Mitchell, see how he plays next to Brunson/Mitchell, then decide what to do with him. Obviously the confidence level isnt super high.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
Sure, but if they deal RJ can they create enough room to sign Jaylen Brown to a max in UFA?

Would having Donovan insure you could sign Brown?
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I might actually use the trade possibility to get some negotiating power. "if you want to stay here for sure sign this below max extension and its done".
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
Ideally I think they want to keep him and have Mitchell, see how he plays next to Brunson/Mitchell, then decide what to do with him. Obviously the confidence level isnt super high.
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IMO they are keeping him as a way to lower the ask on picks... if they truly don't value him at max and at the same time he wants the max.
 
I go back to a quote from Ryen Russilo on Danny Ainge... don't have the exact quote but essentially... "Danny is the most patient guy in every trade call". If this deal gets done in the next 3 weeks its because the Knicks caved.
 
Coach Ellis said:
Love it. If they can swing something like that, I’m all for including the 24 swap. Just don’t want to include assets that are likely to be worthless.
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I think the total risk value of missing out on intercepting a high-pick is way higher than missing out on the value of one of the protected picks that are owed to the Knicks.

The point I really want to drive home is that the Jazz need to wind up with premium players after all is said and done. By the time all of their best players are traded for assets, they will have 0 premium players. So I'm putting a premium on premium opportunities (which includes snatching the Knicks' opportunities in that regard as well).
 
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I've resorted to logging in and scrolling through multiple pages of who knows what because I don't read it. I only stop on the twitter images some of you leave. Then I come back and do it again. I can't read all of your amazing insights because of the stress of waiting for the other shoe to drop. If this waiting gets us more unprotected vs protected picks and Grimes, then it's worth the wait.
 
NUMBERICA said:
THE PELICANS

The fit is great, the relationship with Zion could be a huge boon, and they have excess premium assets.
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Pelicans got enough things going for them that they dont need to take a risky shot like Barrett. They can probably make better moves.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
Pelicans got enough things going for them that they dont need to take a risky shot like Barrett. They can probably make better moves.
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They need shooters too... not sure Barrett is the best long term fit.
 
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