Jazz and Knicks discussing Donovan Mitchell trade per Shams Charania and Tony Jones

[idiot]

I outlined it above. Essentially a Lowry/Strus package to Dallas while taking back Bertans salary and salary filler coming to us with their 2025 1st.

4 unprotected 1sts and 3 pick swaps + Herro + Jovic + Yurtseven is a realistic package they could come up with.

I'm also a good deal more pessimistic that Riley's willing to come sweeping in with a 4 unprotected pick offer than you and HH seem to be.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

I honestly think the best way to deal with this is to tell Hardy that it is likely we deal Donovan before the season but he may very well be on the roster to start camp. We will have some awkwardness for sure but not a big deal. Don may put some pressure on CAA to get a deal done to save him some awkwardness.

It may help derail their season. The earlier they get him into camp the better their record will be. We take our sweet *** time he misses camp... disrupts everything they are doing and ensures 2023 is a lotto pick.

 

[Maneesh]

Tony also said the Knicks are willing to give 5 first round picks but they want 4 of them to be protected picks that will most likely land in the 20's.

Walk away. Never surrender!!!

 

[Elizah Huge]

I'm also a good deal more pessimistic that Riley's willing to come sweeping in with a 4 unprotected pick offer than you and HH seem to be.

You don’t even entertain them if the picks aren’t unprotected. If the Knicks are offering protected picks and the Heat are offering unprotected that’s where the deals can start looking very similar value wise.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

I'm also a good deal more pessimistic that Riley's willing to come sweeping in with a 4 unprotected pick offer than you and HH seem to be.

It would be 3 plus swaps plus Herro and Jovic. If they get something for Kyle and Strus that's a bonus and likely a protected pick.

If the current offer is Toppin/Mcbride NY first in 23 and the garbage picks they have then the Heat offer is better even though it has less picks.

Riley is confident enough to trade 3 unprotected picks for a star. Jimmy is old... their window is now.

 

[Jazz Spazz]

I didn't believe we could win a title with everything built around Rudy. It's not hate; it's an opinion.

I'm critical of Don, but nobody acknowledges it. I'm critical of Rudy, and I'm a hater.

Spin doctors at work

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You and Cy are two princes if you ask me. Go ahead now.

 

[Elizah Huge]

Holding him until training camp is fine until he requests a trade.

 

[Elizah Huge]

The Dallas and Bucks picks the Knicks own are extremely likely to convey.

 

[Elizah Huge]

If 4 of those firsts are the ones they own from other teams its like 3.5 firsts and they will all be in the 20s... then you get the Knicks 23/25 (unprotected?).

No thanks, I’d rather have Miami’s unprotected 23/27/29 plus pick swaps in 24/26/28 plus whatever other picks they may be able to get than that package.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Holding him until training camp is fine until he requests a trade.

Its still fine if the offers aren't great... they won't go lower. If it derails the start of our season with rumors and stuff then whatevs.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

No thanks, I’d rather have Miami’s unprotected 23/27/29 plus pick swaps in 24/26/28 plus whatever other picks they may be able to get than that package.

That's what I was getting at.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

One thing I don't get. If getting Grimes is this huge priority... a big chunk of his value is because he is cheap the next three years... which doesn't do a ton for us.