Jazz and Knicks discussing Donovan Mitchell trade per Shams Charania and Tony Jones

[Saint Cy of JFC]

The saddest thing for NYK fans is that this current Jazz team is probably better than the NYK team that's gonna be left once they trade for Mitchell...

I wouldnt go that far.

 

[David Hume]

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

The saddest thing for NYK fans is that this current Jazz team is probably better than the NYK team that's gonna be left once they trade for Mitchell...

Depends on if they fix the hole at center. Could be close.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IFMMqf-LDKw


The Locked on Knicks guys are kind of delusional (they make content though and it's August) when it comes to the Knicks. It's really funny to hear a massive market team talk like they are a small market team.

The Locked on Boston dude brought reality to the conversation though. Brought up that Ainge was in a similar position with Paul Pierce when Boston had Walker. They traded Walker and were looking into trading Pierce, but ended up just sticking with him and rebuilding around him. Says Utah isnt pressed to trade Mitchell because they can just make the rest of the roster ****** and Mitchell isnt going to kill your odds with how the lottery is set-up now. Talks how NYK could start poorly (something the Locked on Knicks guys seems to think is impossible lmao).

They have been so arrogantly throwing BS trades out there it’s comical. I lol’d when they had a pod last week where they talked about others they could pivot to if they don’t want to pay the price for Don and they literally ended up saying Donovan is kind of the perfect mix of star/age/wanting to be in NY… yet they think they should play hardball and only pay one penny more than whatever the next highest offer is. Also if you are so arrogant… then why worry so much about unprotected firsts you will send out. You’d think Leon Rose is some genius GM going against an intern the way they talk… rose getting canned if this doesn’t go through and the Knicks suck. I really just want to either take a **** ton from the Knicks or trade Don elsewhere as an eff you to them. Would just be hilarious.

I’m the same pod they said “worst case scenario they could trade Randle for PJ Washington” as if that was so favorable to the Hornets. They will be high comedy when the Don trade happens.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

They have been so arrogantly throwing BS trades out there it’s comical. I lol’d when they had a pod last week where they talked about others they could pivot to if they don’t want to pay the price for Don and they literally ended up saying Donovan is kind of the perfect mix of star/age/wanting to be in NY… yet they think they should play hardball and only pay one penny more than whatever the next highest offer is. Also if you are so arrogant… then why worry so much about unprotected firsts you will send out. You’d think Leon Rose is some genius GM going against an intern the way they talk… rose getting canned if this doesn’t go through and the Knicks suck. I really just want to either take a **** ton from the Knicks or trade Don elsewhere as an eff you to them. Would just be hilarious.

I’m the same pod they said “worst case scenario they could trade Randle for PJ Washington” as if that was so favorable to the Hornets. They will be high comedy when the Don trade happens.

The worst thing they said was when talking about Bogey they basically called him a player that is nothing more than a throw in.

That's when I knew their basketball knowledge basically ends outside their own team.

 

[Elizah Huge]

Call Pat Riley and tell him to find another first somehow and then go to Leon Rose and tell him to make a better offer or Mitchell’s going to Miami.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

The worst thing they said was when talking about Bogey they basically called him a player that is nothing more than a throw in.

That's when I knew their basketball knowledge basically ends outside their own team.

Like they were doing us a favor cuz no one really was going to give something up for him. He's on a great 1 year deal... the money would have been all off and we'd end up taking Rose or Fournier because of it.

I just hope we can disappoint them one way or another.

 

[NUMBERICA]

Call Pat Riley and tell him to find another first somehow and then go to Leon Rose and tell him to make a better offer or Mitchell’s going to Miami.

I don’t think another protected 1st is necessary. Unprotect ‘25, then their kitchen sink offer (Herro, 3 unprotected picks, swaps, Jovic, Strus) is definitely enough to pull the trigger on.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Call Pat Riley and tell him to find another first somehow and then go to Leon Rose and tell him to make a better offer or Mitchell’s going to Miami.

The only things I truly care about from the Knicks are the unprotected picks. If they want to do RJ and 3 unprotected picks or Grimes and 3 unprotected picks as the base of the deal then cool... If they are really saying RJ and Grimes are essentially off the table... well then I need Toppin Quickley and 4 unprotected picks. Especially if we eat the Fournier salary.

The protected picks are fine... and we likely get 1-2... we need those unprotected picks. They are getting a premium asset.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

I don’t think another protected 1st is necessary. Unprotect ‘25, then their kitchen sink offer (Herro, 3 unprotected picks, swaps, Jovic, Strus) is definitely enough to pull the trigger on.

Flip Stus to a 3rd team... also get swaps in the deal.

Knicks offer of 4 unprotected picks and Toppin/Quickley is better... if they want to take 1 unprotected pick off the table it cost them 3 of the protected picks imo (that's how I'd value them personally).

 

[Elizah Huge]

I don’t think another protected 1st is necessary. Unprotect ‘25, then their kitchen sink offer (Herro, 3 unprotected picks, swaps, Jovic, Strus) is definitely enough to pull the trigger on.

The only things I truly care about from the Knicks are the unprotected picks. If they want to do RJ and 3 unprotected picks or Grimes and 3 unprotected picks as the base of the deal then cool... If they are really saying RJ and Grimes are essentially off the table... well then I need Toppin Quickley and 4 unprotected picks. Especially if we eat the Fournier salary.

The protected picks are fine... and we likely get 1-2... we need those unprotected picks. They are getting a premium asset.

Flip Stus to a 3rd team... also get swaps in the deal.

Knicks offer of 4 unprotected picks and Toppin/Quickley is better... if they want to take 1 unprotected pick off the table it cost them 3 of the protected picks imo (that's how I'd value them personally).

Agreed all the way around.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

The Toronto offer is the one I am eye balling tbh. They should be good for a while, but have multiple FA in between now and 2026. So if you did a package that got 24/26/28 and a swap in 27 or 29 plus OG and Trent Jr. I think that is pretty fair. I'd try to swipe Banton or Precious as well. They will likely have some limits on paying everyone and have a lot of guys in the FVV OG tier that will be due for a raise... so some consolidation is needed. They also need an offensive engine and have the wing depth to cover for Donovan. The KD thing needs to be resolved first.

I think you could flip OG and Trent in a 3 team deal to Cleveland for Love and Okoro and two firsts... 25 unprotected and 27 top 4 protected. Okoro may be someone they value more than I think but I think he has been a disappointment. His inclusion is not 100% necessary.

5 decent value picks... expiring salary... bet against two teams instead of just one. We'd be +9 in firsts round picks the next 5 years before we call up the Lakers and others on our other vets. Hell of a start to a rebuild.