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Jazz and Knicks discussing Donovan Mitchell trade per Shams Charania and Tony Jones

sip said:
Put Mitchell on that team and I think they are a 4 to 6 seed.
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Go do the work of lining up the eastern conference first…

Bucks
Celtics
Heat
76ers

That’s the top 4

Hawks should be better
Raps should be better
Bulls might be better
Cavs might be better
Nets probably worse if they move KD

Unless RJ takes a big step forward I think the reasonable outcomes for the Knicks would be 6-10… which means the pick could easily be back half of the lotto if they lose the play in. They are one key injury away from being a lotto team.
 
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Toronto’s best offer would be pretty ****ing good. The Knicks would likely have to add Barrett with all of their unprotected 1sts or trade 7 of their 8 1sts to beat that offer. Only problem is if Toronto is offering it or not. They might be offering something close especially since they are keeping Barnes and Siakam out of the deal.
 
Elizah Huge said:
Toronto’s best offer would be pretty ****ing good. The Knicks would likely have to add Barrett with all of their unprotected 1sts or trade 7 of their 8 1sts to beat that offer. Only problem is if Toronto is offering it or not. They might be offering something close especially since they are keeping Barnes and Siakam out of the deal.
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I think Toronto would do 3 picks OG and Trent... at least I think that is highest reasonable offer. I think OG nets two picks from a third team fairly easily. If they are out of the KD business then they may offer it. I think Don would be a pretty good fit. FVV is small but he's a very good defender and they have wings with length.

I think Toronto should consider JC at a much cheaper price if they aren't shopping for huge FAs.
 
Also, Fred Katz wrote an article on the Athletic about best possible Mitchell packages from each team…

In what world is getting a pick swap in 27/29 and an unprotected 1st in 28 better than unprotected 27/29 1sts and a pick swap in 28?
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
Go do the work of lining up the eastern conference first…

Bucks
Celtics
Heat
76ers

That’s the top 4

Hawks should be better
Raps should be better
Bulls might be better
Cavs might be better
Nets probably worse if they move KD

Unless RJ takes a big step forward I think the reasonable outcomes for the Knicks would be 6-10… which means the pick could easily be back half of the lotto if they lose the play in. They are one key injury away from being a lotto team.
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As it currently stands I think the Bucks, Celtics, Heat, 76ers, Hawks, Raptors, Nets, Cavaliers, and Bulls are all better then the Knicks. The Hornets and Wizards could both easily be better than the Knicks as well.

The biggest issue for the Knicks is that Thibs has more or less lost the team and refuses to use their young players because they can't play the level of defense that he expects guys too. Julius Randle has also become unhinged and is quickly becoming a negative asset/player for them.
 
Elizah Huge said:
Toronto’s best offer would be pretty ****ing good. The Knicks would likely have to add Barrett with all of their unprotected 1sts or trade 7 of their 8 1sts to beat that offer. Only problem is if Toronto is offering it or not. They might be offering something close especially since they are keeping Barnes and Siakam out of the deal.
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I think the dust will start to settle when/if Durant is ever moved. I don't think many teams want to give their best offer for Donovan until they know they're completely out of it on KD.
 
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