Jazz and Knicks discussing Donovan Mitchell trade per Shams Charania and Tony Jones

[Handlogten's Heros]

Tarnished his legacy?

C'mon now.

He's KD. He remained on brand.

Okay... he put a fresh coat of tarnish on that legacy. I was one of the few dudes around here that really didn't hold him leaving OKC against him a lot. Picking Kyrie as a partner is terrible judgement... but then to be like nah I'm out this **** you let me decide to do ain't working.

I'm out on him now. I loved KD. Back at my first office a bunch of the guys we'd play pickup with always gave me a bunch of cred for saying I'd take KD over Oden and it wasn't close. Anytime I'd say something wild at lunch they'd be like "well you did say you'd take KD over Oden". So it was a bit sentimental.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

View: https://twitter.com/KDTrey5/status/1562105392909275136

I'm sad that Bev likely never plays here. I've always been a fan... he crosses lines for sure but he hilarious.

 

[Park Bites]

wow a cliche fest

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Only scenario to take back only two unprotected picks is if they basically get everything else: RJ, multiple blind super swaps, Grimes.

I actually think RJ is becoming a real possibility with the latest round of news. RJ and 2 unprotected, plus a swap, plus some protected picks is kinda neat... I ain't a big RJ fan but man if he hits that is a big time piece. I think they may have looked at the cap situation... what they have left to trade... and the fact that they have to feed Brunson, Don, Randle so maybe they change their tune on RJ and want Grimes.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

wow a cliche fest

At the end of the day it is what it is.

 

[whatthe]

I actually think RJ is becoming a real possibility with the latest round of news. RJ and 2 unprotected, plus a swap, plus some protected picks is kinda neat... I ain't a big RJ fan but man if he hits that is a big time piece. I think they may have looked at the cap situation... what they have left to trade... and the fact that they have to feed Brunson, Don, Randle so maybe they change their tune on RJ and want Grimes.

Grimes will be cheaper, has very useful skills, can mesh and is hungry to prove himself.

Long-term RJ is a good not great shooting/playmaker guard. He is worthwhile and keepable but not great for a bang for buck approach. The perfect Knick. He would be fine to acquire and to flip.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Wow, there are NBA players who have to have a moment of job insecurity? And they have families? The injustice KD has sowed.

*Extreme sarcasm*

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Grimes will be cheaper, has very useful skills, can mesh and is hungry to prove himself.

RJ is a 6'6 playmaker who has.never had a good offensive coach in his career. I'd take him.

Sure, no elite skills but size w/ ability to guard up a position and ball handling combo w/ ability to draw fouls is fairly high.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

I doubt the KD news is a huge impact on Donovan stuff. The bigger thing is still training camp happening and just general NYK/Sports media talking about it.

Knicks B offer is still better than most teams all in packages, and the Knicks are still using that line to inform their offer.

 

[jazzfanWA]

Who at the very least has more in their bank accounts than we will make in a life time.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

RJ is a 6'6 playmaker who has.never had a good offensive coach in his career. I'd take him.

Sure, no elite skills but size w/ ability to guard up a position and ball handling combo w/ ability to draw fouls is fairly high.

Has shown the ability to defend and willingness to do so as well. Prioritize him and add some shooting around him and you may have something pretty great. Even if he is a sub AS player but is a two way wing and is good as a secondary creator... that is a max player.

I also have been adamant that you kind of want to lock in a RJ or Herro under this CBA and cap. They will be bargains in 2-3 years even at some version of the max (give them a max but make it flat instead of big increases). You can lock those guys up for 5 years on top of the year they have left. The cap increases 50% over that deal and you got yourself a bargain.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Has shown the ability to defend and willingness to do so as well. Prioritize him and add some shooting around him and you may have something pretty great. Even if he is a sub AS player but is a two way wing and is good as a secondary creator... that is a max player.

I also have been adamant that you kind of want to lock in a RJ or Herro under this CBA and cap. They will be bargains in 2-3 years even at some version of the max (give them a max but make it flat instead of big increases). You can lock those guys up for 5 years on top of the year they have left. The cap increases 50% over that deal and you got yourself a bargain.

I just hate Herro because we had the suped up version of him, Donovan, and it was very disappointing.

I just want something different for the next iteration of the team.