Jazz and Knicks discussing Donovan Mitchell trade per Shams Charania and Tony Jones

[Handlogten's Heros]

Pretty much. That's also why a Lakers trade involving their 27/29 picks would be sex. Lebron might be a Basketball God, but dude isn't playing forever and they are otherwise screwed for young talent. Yes, they can get FAs, but as we've seen, that's hardly surefire.

Lakers pre-Lebron were every bit the tire fire the Knicks have been. Hell even with Lebron they have been in the lotto a couple times.

Unprotected picks from any team have like twice as much value than protected picks imo... life comes at you fast in the NBA. Normally only very confident teams will give them out... so if you are hoping to get a handful as the primary return for Donovan or any player it will likely come from a team that is currently good or confident they will be. Its why the Knicks are scared to jump in and just give up the 4 unprotected picks Ainge wants.

 

[TheStormofWar]

Lakers pre-Lebron were every bit the tire fire the Knicks have been. Hell even with Lebron they have been in the lotto a couple times.

Unprotected picks from any team have like twice as much value than protected picks imo... life comes at you fast in the NBA. Normally only very confident teams will give them out... so if you are hoping to get a handful as the primary return for Donovan or any player it will likely come from a team that is currently good or confident they will be. Its why the Knicks are scared to jump in and just give up the 4 unprotected picks Ainge wants.

Exactly. Basically, the 1Unps is giving Ainge the motherload. Dude also knows the sweetspot is 3 of 'em for Don, so that'll be where they'll meet. If we get Barrett? All the better, but the picks matter most.

 

[Thee Jazz Fan]

While I love that sentiment, timelines do affect decisions. It's better if Don's out of Utah when the season starts, if for no other reason than avoiding adversely affecting our ping pong balls.

I think we will be very bad with or without Don. I’m sure trader dan has a contingency plan for any outcome

 

[Elizah Huge]

I think we will be very bad with or without Don. I’m sure trader dan has a contingency plan for any outcome

We will not be very bad with Donovan. He is enough to push us closer to a play-in gave vs a top-5 pick.

 

[LogGrad98]

If the Cleveland package is better than New York's, than we take the Cleveland package unless New York beats it. It's just that simple and there is nothing for them to fall for.

This. Who gives a **** what Mitchell wants, really. I mean I like the guy but I will be damned if I take a lesser deal just to get him to his dream franchise. Especially after his performance in the playoffs this year. Absolutely shameful. No need to cater to him at this point, just get the most you can, even if that is from the Shanghai Sharks.

 

[LogGrad98]

We will not be very bad with Donovan. He is enough to push us closer to a play-in gave vs a top-5 pick.

This. Just more reasons for him to go now. Don't sabotage the rebuild with a 35 win team. That is a recipe for disaster at this point.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

This. Just more reasons for him to go now. Don't sabotage the rebuild with a 35 win team. That is a recipe for disaster at this point.

Our early season schedule is rough. I don't think we are endangering the tank by waiting the first 20 or so games if we don't get what we want. I'm not concerned there. I'd be more concerned that Don gets hurt and his value tanks and its another 6-9 months of waiting.

I think both sides find an acceptable deal before the season starts.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Saw an alternative to the Heat deal where the Cavs get Herro and give a pick or two plus Sexton... we collect the picks and swaps from Miami. The idea being if the cost of Don to the Cavs is too high for Cleveland a lower cost for Herro is more realistic and interesting.

There you go Knicks fans... that's an offer that gives more unprotected picks than you are offering... beat it. Things get so much more interesting once Sept 6 happens. Hope Knicks panic and get in front of that date.

 

[jazzfanWA]

This. Who gives a **** what Mitchell wants, really. I mean I like the guy but I will be damned if I take a lesser deal just to get him to his dream franchise. Especially after his performance in the playoffs this year. Absolutely shameful. No need to cater to him at this point, just get the most you can, even if that is from the Shanghai Sharks.

The Sharks can only offer 2 unprotected picks.

 

[NUMBERICA]

I’m interested to see why one of the sides is leaking that the Jazz ’strongly’ want RJ - is it so they can claim victory when we get all of their draft picks and young players without RJ?

I hope so, but I’m getting the feeling that RJ is actually in play now.

I still prefer the (unprotected) picks and swaps-centric deals.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

I hope so, but I’m getting the feeling that RJ is actually in play now.

I still prefer the (unprotected) picks and swaps-centric deals.

I think he is in play and it is clearly coming from the NY side as it was reported by Ian Begley and Berman. I think its a good thing cuz it shows they are kinda scrambling to find a deal that works.

 

[whatthe]

So are the Cavs the dark horse team or is it Orlando? With Don they would be a top 1 or top 2 seed in the East.