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Jazz and Knicks discussing Donovan Mitchell trade per Shams Charania and Tony Jones

I was consistent in saying 1.5 unprotected picks... there is a difference. I stated it at least twice. 1 unprotected and 1 protected is basically 1.5 unprotected picks. Its right in line with what I stated.

Unprotected picks are worth twice as much as protected ones... I don't think that is a wild assumption.

I think the Jazz prefer package #1 too... so if they both agree you execute the deal. I think there is at least a chance that the Knicks prefer to give package #2 for the sake of flexibility. If they value him more than this, then the Jazz will very much prefer the non-RJ package.





There is some hesitancy on an extension for Barrett... if that last sentence were true they would have extended him already and taken him off the table. They need RJ to play well to retain his value... That's going to be difficult with Donovan, Jalen, Randle all requiring shots too.

I think they have hit a stalemate as Ainge really only cares about unprotected picks per some reports... Knicks don't want to go to 4 and maybe Ainge won't compromise on 3... so then 2 and RJ becomes an alternative... or it becomes the selling point to the fanbase "we had to give up 4 picks but we kept RJ out". If the reporting had stayed consistent that we weren't interested in RJ then it changes the negotiations a bit. I do think Danny would settle in on 2 unprotected picks RJ and stuff or see it as at least equivalent or better than 3 unprotected picks and stuff. That is where the rubber hits the road in these negotiations.

I just don't see RJ as a compromise option and I hope he's not. There is a massive delta between what I think he's actually worth and what it would cost to get him. I think Danny wants picks more than he wants players and NYK wants Barrett more than they want picks.
 
I just don't see RJ as a compromise option and I hope he's not. There is a massive delta between what I think he's actually worth and what it would cost to get him. I think Danny wants picks more than he wants players and NYK wants Barrett more than they want picks.

I don't see RJ in the deal as realistic. This would create a hole at SF for the Knicks.
 
They have Reddish who has some upside and they still can deal some other players. Market is just getting started, too. Jeremy Lamb, Ben McLemore or Rodney Hood probably can be some sort of stop-gap. It's not like theyll be winning many games either way.
 
They have Reddish who has some upside and they still can deal some other players. Market is just getting started, too. Jeremy Lamb, Ben McLemore or Rodney Hood probably can be some sort of stop-gap. It's not like theyll be winning many games either way.

All the more reason that they wouldn't want to trade unprotected picks then. Reddish is also an unknown and not very liked by their coach. I don't think Ainge really wants to have to max out a player while rebuilding.
 
All the more reason that they wouldn't want to trade unprotected picks then. Reddish is also an unknown and not very liked by their coach. I don't think Ainge really wants to have to max out a player while rebuilding.
Based on what? We will have to spend the money eventually anyways. Cap is spiking in a few years and his contact would look extremely favorable.
 
Why would the Suns take Randle?
There was a rumor they want a post up 4 and Knicks fans were like... k you can have him but we need a couple picks... legit heard the Knicks film room guys say Crowder, Shamet, Craig plus a 1st enough... the other guy was like... ones enough if its unprotected.

These assholes think Don worth 2 unprotected picks but want at least one for Randle (protections on a phoenix pick need to be removed like they will be a lotto team).

No one wants Randle.
 
Based on what? We will have to spend the money eventually anyways. Cap is spiking in a few years and his contact would look extremely favorable.
We have to get to the salary floor next year. We can take on 20-30M in bad salaries for picks. Other than that our cap space is going to be used on players... might as well have some good young players to use it on... call me crazy.
 
We have to get to the salary floor next year. We can take on 20-30M in bad salaries for picks. Other than that our cap space is going to be used on players... might as well have some good young players to use it on... call me crazy.

Good young player on a favorable contract in a few years… you crazy ************.
 
I just don't see RJ as a compromise option and I hope he's not. There is a massive delta between what I think he's actually worth and what it would cost to get him. I think Danny wants picks more than he wants players and NYK wants Barrett more than they want picks.
That's fine.... Knicks should value Barrett over picks. There also might be some disagreements in his extension negotiations... He might want max dollars and they might want him at a Keldon Johnson price. The RJ stuff is very clearly coming from the Knicks side... could mean a few different things.
 
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