Jazz and Knicks discussing Donovan Mitchell trade per Shams Charania and Tony Jones

[Handlogten's Heros]

That is insanity to me. The Jazz will have no shortage of opportunity to find good role players which I think is how he projects.

If pieces like young players and protected picks fill in gaps between bigger pieces, that's fine. But an unprotected Knicks pick vs. Quentin Grimes? I don't understand how that's even a question (again, in the context of trading a mega-premium asset, we NEED to increase our chances at extracting a replacement level asset somewhere in the trove of the return).

I agree... if that is the trade off. We don't get the full benefit of Grimes in tank mode. I would take him over a protected pick though.

 

[Elizah Huge]

That is insanity to me. The Jazz will have no shortage of opportunity to find good role players which I think is how he projects.

If pieces like young players and protected picks fill in gaps between bigger pieces, that's fine. But an unprotected Knicks pick vs. Quentin Grimes? I don't understand how that's even a question (again, in the context of trading a mega-premium asset, we NEED to increase our chances at extracting a replacement level asset somewhere in the trove of the return).

The replacement level asset is RJ. You’re WAY too low on him.

On the topic of Grimes it’s kind of hard to gauge. Would I rather have an unprotected first over him? Yes, but I’d be willing to take him over one if that was the hold up. I think that’s fair to say.

 

[NUMBERICA]

The replacement level asset is RJ. You’re WAY too low on him.

Then why would the Knicks have offered - if the rumors are to be believed and your asking price considered - RJ + 2 unprotected and 3 protected picks?

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

One thing that seems very apparent is the Lakers deal is going to happen. It is there for us. Locke talked about it today and mentioned Bogey and Beasley... said "we have the deal!"

Like it wasn't sourced but there is so much smoke on that and the fact he brough up Beasely and not JC or someone else leads me to believe this is leaking out a bit now. Said that trade is the sign of whether we are truly tanking or not... he wasn't reporting anything but he is generally horrible at trades/CBA etc. so the fact he mentioned it and was detailed leads me to believe its happening.

So there will be a trade next week. Final payment comes due bitches.

 

[Elizah Huge]

Then why would the Knicks have offered - if the rumors are to be believed and your asking price considered - RJ + 2 unprotected and 3 protected picks?

Because he’s not Donovan Mitchell? Why did New Orleans trade Anthony Davis for Brandon Ingram?

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

The replacement level asset is RJ. You’re WAY too low on him.

On the topic of Grimes it’s kind of hard to gauge. Would I rather have an unprotected first over him? Yes, but I’d be willing to take him over one if that was the hold up. I think that’s fair to say.

I think they are trying to sell Grimes like he is gonna blow up like Bane. It could happen. I like him a lot. He also might just be a decent 3 and D wing and we have no superstars to fully realize his current value.

 

[Elizah Huge]

One thing that seems very apparent is the Lakers deal is going to happen. It is there for us. Locke talked about it today and mentioned Bogey and Beasley... said "we have the deal!"

Like it wasn't sourced but there is so much smoke on that and the fact he brough up Beasely and not JC or someone else leads me to believe this is leaking out a bit now. Said that trade is the sign of whether we are truly tanking or not... he wasn't reporting anything but he is generally horrible at trades/CBA etc. so the fact he mentioned it and was detailed leads me to believe its happening.

So there will be a trade next week. Final payment comes due bitches.

I just want to throw it out there involving the Lakers makes an RJ trade a lot easier to get him to us lol.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

I just want to throw it out there involving the Lakers makes an RJ trade a lot easier to get him to us lol.

It feels like there is a theme to your posts today lolz.

 

[NUMBERICA]

Because he’s not Donovan Mitchell? Why did New Orleans trade Anthony for Brandon Ingram?

Cuz Anthony Davis is better (when healthy). Demonstrably by a lot if you compare their respective tenures with the Lakers and team success.

 

[Elizah Huge]

Cuz Anthony Davis is better (when healthy). Demonstrably by a lot if you compare their respective tenures with the Lakers and team success.

Right, so why did New Orleans make that deal?

 

[NUMBERICA]

Right, so why did New Orleans make that deal?

Back up. I just made the point (that I think was clearly demonstrated in 2020, good injury luck or not) that Brandon Ingram wasn't AD replacement-level.

New Orleans made the deal to try and get another AD-level prospect back to the best of their ability and the conditions at the time.

I also don't think RJ is as good as Brandon Ingram.

 

[Elizah Huge]

Back up. I just made the point (that I think was clearly demonstrated in 2020, good injury luck or not) that Brandon Ingram wasn't AD replacement-level.

He wasn’t but you take the chance on him becoming that while also getting a **** ton of other assets. You don’t make that deal unless you believe in Ingram.