Jazz at Nets, 3/26, 5:30PM MT--KFNZ, ROOT, WFAN, YES

[addictionary]

Can someone tell Ty that he has %100 job security so he'll relax stop getting cold feet for playing with the youngsters in games like these?

 

[kwb]

Can someone tell Ty that he has %100 job security so he'll relax stop getting cold feet for playing with the youngsters in games like these?

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Can some one also tell him when his starters have played a game the night before that went to 4 OT's that it's ok to sit them when his team is up by 20 with 5 minutes to go.

 

[addictionary]

Can some one also tell him when his starters have played a game the night before that went to 4 OT's that it's ok to sit them when his team is up by 20 with 5 minutes to go.

Oh yeah, and that!

 

[NUMBERICA]

Poor Deron; he can't even be a Prima Donna right.

While he pouted/mouthed his way to the Jersey shore (and maybe to the Brooklyn Bridge, if Mark Cuban doesn't bail him out), CeePeeThree diva'd himself a ticket to Tinseltown to play with that Kia guy who can dunk. And unlike Chrissy, Deron doesn't make teammates nearly as much better.

Deron wouldn't commit to a team that had done nothing but throw players overboard and get worse for the previous 8 months, Chris Paul forced a trade.

For being such a stickler about facts, you sure like to throw a bunch of bull **** around.

 

[NUMBERICA]

Okay, you are right about 93-94... I should have been more clear... I was talking about mid-90s, preferably 96-97...

Holy ****, stop talking. You're talking about the same team that won 72 games the season before, and the only team to feature three All-Defensive 1st team selections? That is one of the best teams of all time. And again, we're talking about the greatest player ever, and you're mad that Deron Williams isn't that. Get real.

 

[carolinajazz]

Just when you think CJ couldn't say anything dumber, he goes ahead and establishes yet another bar of stupidity.

Yes, CJ he makes bad decisions, so he MUST listen to hip-hop. And of course we all know that anyone who listens to hip hop MUST make bad decisions.

....I was merely responding to a posters claim that the Nets are a basketball franchise in total disarray....and since Jay-Z is part owner of the team and no doubt signed off wholeheartedly on the Deron Williams trade, in which the Jazz took that team to the cleaners, he definitely bares part of the blame! He, no doubt, was thinking "Yeah, we can get Deron, that will help us bring other big name stars to our team....and in no time we will be top dog of N.Y. even ahead of the Knicks!" Well, it hasn't worked out that way, now has it? Both N.Y. teams are in shambles with virtually no end in sight to straighten out either team!

 

[BabyPeterzz]

Can someone tell Ty that he has %100 job security so he'll relax stop getting cold feet for playing with the youngsters in games like these?

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But that's just simply not true. So why would he do that?

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Okay, you are right about 93-94... I should have been more clear... I was talking about mid-90s, preferably 96-97...

You might be saying, Well yeah Hanginthere... They still had guys like Dennis Rodman, Ron Harper, and Toni Kukoc... Yeah... Well after the Bulls these guys became NOTHING!

Rodman was a walking circus and HORRIBLY overrated IMO... All he could really do is rebound and make an outlandish shot every once in a while... A guy like that wouldn't last very long on any team in the NBA today...

Toni Kukoc went from team to team and never did anything...

Granted, Ron Harper was a little older once he left, but he didn't do anything special after the Bulls either...

Jordan was a great leader that made the players around him better than what they were...

You could say the same for Stockton and Malone... Guys like Shandon Anderson, Chris Morris, Greg Foster, Bryon Russell, etc played their best basketball here with them in Utah... But when they went elsewhere, they were never heard from again...

My point is... Deron is doing nothing to make those players on the Nets around him better... Not a damn thing, and that was apparent last night...

Rodman overrated? Serious? All he could do is rebound? What about defense? Also, defense and rebounding win championships, that is a little saying used by many.

Also, the making players better can be heavily attributed to the systems Sloan and Jackson ran. They were able to give player's roles they can fulfill and succeed in. They didn't just aimlessly throw players out there like a lot of coaches do who don't run strict systems. Obviously it has do have great players in those systems for them to succeed at a high level and make the other pieces work.

Dwill did a great job of making players better in Utah. Or are you saying Brewer should be capable of scoring 14 ppg?

 

[bjunior]

But that's just simply not true. So why would he do that?

No, it's true.

I agree with addictionary.

 

[BabyPeterzz]

No, it's true.

I agree with addictionary.

How do you know? You work in the front office? You think if Ty loses games, thus losing the Utah Jazz $$$ he'll keep his job?

Common sense and reality disagree with you.

 

[bjunior]

How do you know? You work in the front office? You think if Ty loses games, thus losing the Utah Jazz $$$ he'll keep his job?

Common sense and reality disagree with you.

This is my opinion based on what I see during the game.

And this forum gave me the right to say my opinion. You can deal with that, right?

Or you want to say that if we are not from the front office - we can't critique or discuss our coach's decisions?

 

[BENTLEY]

Pretty funny, but parr for the course here on Jazzfanz

Thing is, most fanz here have set their agenda and their story about what is happening. They got pissed and they want to stay pissed.
Last thing they want to do is admit they are wrong.

Same with last night. Jazz lose a close game. Fanz here can't accept that the jazz lose a game, so they get pissed and blame Corbin and say that they will be proven right when the jazz lose big against NJ because the starters are tired.
Tonight, they are proven wrong, the starters do well and we win the game. That SHOULD make everyone happy, but for these fanz, they had their story crushed, so they are pissed off.

No team goes undefeated. There are always gonna be losses to bad teams every year. But some fanz just can't take it. They want to stay negative because that is what they are. They can't enjoy what the jazz are doing because they already went all in on their negativity.It's too bad. Most fans I know are actually enjoying all of this. I know I am. Playoffs here we come.

It's like the silly fan in Major League 2. He gets so mad at the team when they have some rough times, that he can't even enjoy it when the team wakes up and starts winning. He still goes to all the games just so he can tell all the fans that they are stupid for believing and yell at all the players for sucking.
At the end, when the team is on the verge, he finally stops it and wants to join all the happy fans in the celebration. They all look at him like "what an idiot" but then shrug and say "oh well"

Astute post. And I totally relate to it. I am happy for the team when they win, even though my desire for a second lottery pick wants to be mad with the W. And I am glad for the losses that ensure the second lottery pick, even though it is hard to root against the guys I love so much. This is a great group of guys. And even though Jefferson isn't the future of the Jazz I really like him and would love for him to get to the playoffs. QUESTION: Has Jefferson EVER made the playoffs before?
(sigh)
Win, Lose - either way I'm happy AND sad.