Jazz ban 2nd fan for calling Westbrook "boy"

[One Brow]

I remember Boozer yelling "yeah boy" or "get that out of here boy" after an AK47 block. Did anyone back then think of it as a racial slur? I guess you have to be a super SJW these days to know all the terms.

I think you have to be staggeringly uninformed to be unaware how offensive it is to use address a black person as "boy", and deliberately obstructionary to pretend to not know the difference between calling someone "Boy" and a phrase such as "Yeah boy!".

By the way, for those who are staggeringly uninformed, I would not refer to an elderly black person as "uncle" or "auntie" unless you know them intimately, preferably with an actual blood/marriage relationship.

 

[Stoked]

Ok. I’m done lol.

Time to drink so I can sleep nightmare free.

 

[Stoked]

Oh and @One Brow insightful and worthwhile discussion as usual. Thanks.

 

[One Brow]

Really? This happens all the time. Kevin Hart comes to mind recently? It's becoming a thing to dig up someones old tweets and destroy their life.

Kevin Hart could have said, "I screwed up. I was hurtful, I was wrong, and I won't make jokes at the expense of homosexuals ever again. I'm sorry." and he would have been forgiven. Instead, he tried to justify his behavior. That was what destroyed his life.

 

[One Brow]

Yeah the governor of Virginia, who was seen as a champion of equal rights, now is being called on to resign when it came out he had used black face in the 80s.

Same as with Kevin Hart. Had he admitted it, apologized, and discussed why he knew better now, he would be fine. Instead, he denied it was him at all.

 

[One Brow]

I think being a patronizing SJW is wrongheaded.

I assume you also disapprove of people who are not fighting for social justice, yet are patronizing.

 

[Jazzta]

I think you have to be staggeringly uninformed to be unaware how offensive it is to use address a black person as "boy", and deliberately obstructionary to pretend to not know the difference between calling someone "Boy" and a phrase such as "Yeah boy!".

By the way, for those who are staggeringly uninformed, I would not refer to an elderly black person as "uncle" or "auntie" unless you know them intimately, preferably with an actual blood/marriage relationship.

Well said, Aunt Jemima’s pancakes and Uncle Ben’s rice come to mind.

 

[One Brow]

And many times it’s code for stfu. I’m telling your straight up. Its used repeatedly to silence dissenting opinions from whites.

It goes against the very nature of what the people using profess to want.

As a white male, there are some experiences that I don't, and never will, have an informed opinion about. When I'm intruding in those areas, I should be told to shut up and listen. However, I agree that some people will try to abuse that.

Now for your specific argument. It is foolish for a white person to tell a black person about the affects of racism on black people. And it’s foolish for blacks to sit there and silence whites and dismiss their opinions.

I’m not saying that there is any historical equivalence. Or even broad group based equivalence in today’s society. Their simply isn’t. One is clearly worse than the other.

But shutting people down will never lead to the end of racism. It’s about bringing everyone in. Not shutting people down. And far to often that’s the tactic used.

I don't know if you recall this, but when I first joined this site, and for many years afterward, I was virulently anti-gun. A few posters (IIRC, Bulletproof and some guy named Stoked) told me that I didn't know what I was talking about regarding gun culture, and that I needed to listen more. I suppose I could have gotten huffy about that (and probably did a few times), but when I got over myself and listened, I began to understand how complicated the issues are and how valueless my opinion actually was. Being told my opinion had no value, and accepting that, was a step of progress for me.

People should not be shut down, but some opinions need to be shut down.

 

[Jazzta]

Maybe, just maybe people need to lighten up a bit on all sides? I’ve had long conversations with a black friend of mine regarding this matter and we both agree that sometimes there is over exposure on people who don’t deserve any of it.

 

[One Brow]

Well said, Aunt Jemima’s pancakes and Uncle Ben’s rice come to mind.

Yep. You don't think those brands were named or started by black people, do you?

 

[One Brow]

Ok. I’m done lol.

Time to drink so I can sleep nightmare free.

Sweet dreams, and as always, great respect.

 

[One Brow]

Maybe, just maybe people need to lighten up a bit on all sides?

Well, if we can't take advice from a knuckle-walker, who can we take advice from?

I’ve had long conversations with a black friend of mine regarding this matter and we both agree that sometimes there is over exposure on people who don’t deserve any of it.

No argument there. For everyone doing serious hard work, there is another trying to ride the coattails without putting in the effort.