Jazz extend qualifying offer to Hayward

[Stifle Tower]

Its honestly embarrassing that this even has to be explained. I'm surprised 95% of this board can actually read.

Well, if we use simple words. And we keep our sentences short. See Gordon run. See Gordon shoot. See Gordon miss. Now the opponent has the ball. Watch them make an easy basket. Bad Jazz, bad!

 

[TheStormofWar]

My brother worked with the jazz this past year and was pretty well connected to some folks who were actually involved in their decision making process. One thing that really stands out? The Jazz aren't nearly as creative or as diabolic as many on this board make them out to be. They aren't the CIA.

So these stupid trades involving half the league that this board usually creates and these weirdo conspiracies (like Hayward's qualifying offer) just have absolutely zero substance to them.

My guess? The Jazz knew months ago that they were going to send a qualifying offer out. However, draft stuff and coaching stuff was priority #1. By now, the jazz are basically set with their draft prep. So why not get to the next phase like, free agency? The first step in this free agency phase is to extend a QO to Hayward.

No conspiracy. No weird intentions with the timing. We aren't sending a message to the league that we're shopping Hayward.

We just had a few extra mins before the draft started and are now working to get going with free agency.

You take all the fun out of it.

 

[franklin]

OK. We're staying put at #5. This seals it.

Really? Funny how we just see things differently. I think the Jazz have Burks pegged as their 6th man. Then Hayward can be a starting SF or SG depending on who they draft. I still think that the Jazz go for the first pick and then slot Hayward depending on who they draft between Wiggins and Parker.

No. Weeners is right. We don't need another small forward.

 

[da ThRONe]

Luckily for us, I think Hayward lowered his value a bit this season. He didn't make any real progressions from last season other than improved rebounding and passing with more exposure. He basically proved that he could not lead a team successfully and is best as a complimentary player. For that reason, I think it would be crazy if someone offered him close to a max offer. I'm thinking around 9-11 million which would be an easy match for the Jazz. It would be a shame to lose Hayward right after drafting Wiggins, Parker, or Gordon.

Which is why he'll likely get offered something closer to 13-14 something a team thinks Utah won't match.

 

[Stifle Tower]

Which is why he'll likely get offered something closer to 13-14 something a team thinks Utah won't match.

At least Boston still thinks they're in the hunt for Love. Which means an offer for Hayward doesn't get done right away. Let's see if Phoenix wants him. If not, Jazz present their final offer from last summer. Hayward should be grateful since he underperformed.

 

[Bawse Dawg]

Well, if we use simple words. And we keep our sentences short. See Gordon run. See Gordon shoot. See Gordon miss. Now the opponent has the ball. Watch them make an easy basket. Bad Jazz, bad!

But seriously, you need an editor. Every post of yours makes like 10 different points. And are way to long. I start reading with some interest, then you're off on like 10 different tangents. And I stop, doubt I'm the only one. Every post does not have to explain the intentions of every single lottery team and how we might make a deal with them. Keep going if you want, but just know I think a lot of effort is being wasted. Keep it simple.

 

[Ron Mexico]

I think the Jazz learn from Milsap and Mathews and try to get out in front and make Hayward a respectable offer immediately without delay. Let him know they want him back and hope he signs it before looking for a huge payout from another team. Offer Hayward 10 million per year. This might be over paying just slightly but better than him getting a 12-13 per year offer the Jazz begrudgingly sign or dont and get nothing for him.

 

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I think the Jazz learn from Milsap and Mathews and try to get out in front and make Hayward a respectable offer immediately without delay. Let him know they want him back and hope he signs it before looking for a huge payout from another team. Offer Hayward 10 million per year. This might be over paying just slightly but better than him getting a 12-13 per year offer the Jazz begrudgingly sign or dont and get nothing for him.

Hay is gonna wait things out. With all the teams clearing space for LeBron and Melo, there's gonna be some money on the table somewhere. He'd be an idiot to rush the deal.

 

[Ron Mexico]

Hay is gonna wait things out. With all the teams clearing space for LeBron and Melo, there's gonna be some money on the table somewhere. He'd be an idiot to rush the deal.

I agree he will want to but I think the Jazz should try. I think both Milsap and Mathews went out looking for FU contracts since they didnt like how the Jazz handled it. Portland is more than happy to give those contracts out. Jazz traditionally let RFA look at the market first before they make an offer but it never works out for the Jazz.

 

[ijazz]

I agree he will want to but I think the Jazz should try. I think both Milsap and Mathews went out looking for FU contracts since they didnt like how the Jazz handled it. Portland is more than happy to give those contracts out. Jazz traditionally let RFA look at the market first before they make an offer but it never works out for the Jazz.

Jazz already said they will let hayward get an offer and match it

 

[ijazz]

Per stevekylernba tweet

 

[bigmike]

I bet we're proactive and make him a solid offer, but I bet he tests the market. I get the sense that Hayward is looking to cash out in a serious way.

I'm going to be completely honest here - I'm not the hugest fan of Hayward. He has all the tools but it hasn't seemed to jell for him yet, and this is a guy who played 2 years of college ball and has now played 4 years in the league. I know a lot of guys around the league (Rivers, Stevens, Kobe, etc) have gushed over him in the past, but I think he's slightly overvalued. I think everything will become easier for him once he's surrounded by better talent ans isn't asked to carry the load offensively by himself. But is a solid 3rd option on a playoff team really worth the type of $ he's rumored to be looking for?

If he gets an RFA offer that is very close (or at) the max, I'm in favor of letting him walk. I'm comfortable with an extension in the $10M - $12M range. Anything more than that and I'm uneasy. Those massive, inflated contracts are just crippling to teams who fear the luxury tax. Plus, who knows what kind of extensions Exum, Hood, Kanter, Burks, and Gobert could look to get in the next 2-3 years.