You cant actually think an executive would admit to tanking (especially when it comes to manipulating minutes) in a press conference before the season even started?
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You cant actually think an executive would admit to tanking (especially when it comes to manipulating minutes) in a press conference before the season even started?
Fair....but it's kinda like when people said Ryan Saunders had like 10 years of experience as an assistant. That's not exactly the argument to beat the nepo allegations lol. I do feel more comfortable with AA than if we were left with DA trying to make a final push.
No, but there are many ways to talk around that besides "won't happen".
Any chance the Jazz get Jaylen Brown now? I know it's been rumored the Celtics might deal him. Jazz just got a guy extremely familiar with the Celtics FO thoughts for their upcoming off-season.
It works money wise. Saves the Celts 7.3 million (and whatever that amounts to in tax savings). Jazz would obviously add in a lot of picks and/or young assets.
HadAnEffectHere
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lmao, it would be pretty funny if Ryan Smith demanded the team try to win now only for them to finish 13th in the West because the roster sucks.
Here are the best players currently on the roster
-Movement shooting PF (Markkanen)
-Rim running center (Kessler)
-Gunner guard (Sexton)
-Tweener PF/C (John Collins)
-Tweener PF/C (Kyle Filipowski)
-Spotup PF (Taylor Hendricks)
If you notice that all of these guys are big men other than Sexton...
List of high BBIQ guys on the roster:
Isaiah Collier
Kyle Filipowski
(They are both barely not teenagers)
List of good defenders on the roster:
Walker Kessler
Hopefully Taylor Hendricks
Now, obviously guys can be moved to make this roster make... Any sense... But it would be pretty expensive to do so, especially to get anywhere.
Here are the best players currently on the roster
-Movement shooting PF (Markkanen)
-Rim running center (Kessler)
-Gunner guard (Sexton)
-Tweener PF/C (John Collins)
-Tweener PF/C (Kyle Filipowski)
-Spotup PF (Taylor Hendricks)
If you notice that all of these guys are big men other than Sexton...
List of high BBIQ guys on the roster:
Isaiah Collier
Kyle Filipowski
(They are both barely not teenagers)
List of good defenders on the roster:
Walker Kessler
Hopefully Taylor Hendricks
Now, obviously guys can be moved to make this roster make... Any sense... But it would be pretty expensive to do so, especially to get anywhere.
Yes, he said Brad Stevens is already calling him lol.
I’d preferably keep Sexton and send Collins/Clarkson/Svi. I wouldn’t give up much more than 5 this year or a couple future picks.
HadAnEffectHere
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Stein says there's a 0% chance the Celtics trade Jaylen Brown.
If there's any Celtics deal to be made, it's probably a panic deal of John Collins for Jrue.
If there's any Celtics deal to be made, it's probably a panic deal of John Collins for Jrue.
show your evidence
As a fan, setting the team up where you don't have to sit players is just what I want. The most miserable part of the tank was the manipulation of minutes throughout years, embarrassing.
I also wonder if AA will be less stubborn than DA. We all know that DA has a reputation as a stickler for better or worse. I think it has hurt us in the sense that it has taken us forever to cleanse the roster of vets. AA shouldn't have an ego attached to future potential trades.
I also wonder if AA will be less stubborn than DA. We all know that DA has a reputation as a stickler for better or worse. I think it has hurt us in the sense that it has taken us forever to cleanse the roster of vets. AA shouldn't have an ego attached to future potential trades.
gomretat
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I dont think my issue is unrealistic expectations nor do I think my view is "weird" but you are welcome to call it whatever you like. I would argue there is a growing feeling that is consistent with my issues ever since Ainge took over. IF you insisted on trading BOTH HOF players (which never made sense), then tank out of the gate, don't putz around for 2 years with no direction. That by the way is a very common take on what this FO has done. Not only have the national coverage folks been calling us out for several years, finally some of the local media are doing so.
You did nail part of the issue with your luck comment. I have zero expectations around timelines but I do think having a plan not based upon luck matters. Our entire process is based upon getting lucky. Ainge got very lucky in Boston. That is why you trade for young talent in addition to picks. Not only have we not replaced to HOF players, it is doubtful that we have acquired the talent to replace our solid starters and role players.
Mid season the numbers showed that the Jazz had shed 44% of their viewership this year. That doesnt account for the drop of the few years before. You can love the process as much as you like but I am comfortable saying there are plenty of fans that hate it when their team is trying to throw games by using G league players with legit NBA guys on the bench. In my view, the people enjoying this are like lemmings just buying into a narrative that is has been sold by the FO and supported by the BYU zealots who think Danny can do no wrong because of where he played college ball.
I loved watching the post John and Karl team that went 42-42 because they were busting it. Creating a culture of wanting to lose is not my cup of tea. If that makes me weird and unrealistic, so be it.