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[Handlogten's Heros]

They are hyper talented and guys could be in for big jumps. I also think Jabari is going to be a very good rookie in terms of winning impact.

as far as guys that affect winning... I think we have like 3 or 4 that are better than their best guy. They won 21 games last year and traded their leading scorer.

They already got Gordon bought into a small bench role... they are a problem!!!

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Or.....Quin was right in not using him the way everyone was clamoring for. Happens every year, people fall in love with a Rook or young guy who they are sure is the answer and it usually turns out the coach was right. Last year was Butlers turn. Even if he works out, he clearly was not ready last year.

And I'm open to that... it was just weird how Quin went out of his way to throw cold water on JB and then gave him a completely ****** role where it would have been very hard to succeed. He may have seen something he hated and may have been right... but it was weird.

Quin was good but one of his issues was not seeing the big picture and grooming guys... he was hyperfocused on the best chance to win the game that night.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

as far as guys that affect winning... I think we have like 3 or 4 that are better than their best guy. They won 21 games last year and traded their leading scorer.

They already got Gordon bought into a small bench role... they are a problem!!!

Just saying that your claim was hyperbolic. I would say they have 6 solid NBA to very good NBA players.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

And I'm open to that... it was just weird how Quin went out of his way to throw cold water on JB and then gave him a completely ****** role where it would have been very hard to succeed. He may have seen something he hated and may have been right... but it was weird.

Quin was good but one of his issues was not seeing the big picture and grooming guys... he was hyperfocused on the best chance to win the game that night.

Quin hasnt been proven wrong on a single prospect yet. People hated on his Exum treatment too but where is Exum now?

 

[Gameface]

Quin hasnt been proven wrong on a single prospect yet. People hated on his Exum treatment too but where is Exum now?

Last I heard he was DED

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Quin hasnt been proven wrong on a single prospect yet. People hated on his Exum treatment too but where is Exum now?

That's fine but it isn't like we brought a **** ton of young talent through... it can also be a bit of a self fulfilling prophesy.

It isn't just young guys... he had a hard time experimenting with different guys and giving up regular season production for playoff preparation. He struggled to play the long game at times... we also didn't give him a lot of clay to mold.

Ain't saying Quin did JB dirty but when he saw a kid having a good pre-season he threw cold water on it and gave him a role that would be almost impossible to succeed in. Didn't do him favors and try to create a situation for him to develop... i know i know we were a contender. He had his reasons and may be proven right.

 

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Nope. Trading Donny and or some other pieces like Royce and building around Rudy was an option, an extremely good on IMO. Filling in a solid wing or stretch 4 was very doable and Conley is still solid as a PG on the right team.

No it wasn't a good option. That is a 10 to 8 seed.

 

[infection]

Just listened to this whole interview... Tony said that the only team that was really serious about trading for Clarkson was the Bucks, said the Jazz would've had to take back George Hill and they weren't willing to do that.

I bet Tony would have loved that.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Just saying that your claim was hyperbolic. I would say they have 6 solid NBA to very good NBA players.

Gordon, Porter Jr., Tate

Green and Sengun (don't really help you win yet) Jabari is a rookie... All these guys hurt you as much as they help you since they are inefficient young players.

Their other guys are replacement level until they prove otherwise.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Our opening season schedule is really brutal and may just be enough of a shock to the system to really get tanky... end of season is a joke and teams will be starting all G League lineups and you will win some by default.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Gordon, Porter Jr., Tate

Green and Sengun (don't really help you win yet) Jabari is a rookie... All these guys hurt you as much as they help you since they are inefficient young players.

Their other guys are replacement level until they prove otherwise.

I'd add Kenyon Martin Jr to the list as well. I know that situation is a bit contentious, but I would say he could be a rotation piece on a playoff team in the right role. Garuba showed role player promise in Euro Basket.

I think Green/Sengun will be more of "winning players" this year and like I said about Jabari, I think he's going to be a very good "winning" rookie. Might not have the touches/numbers of the other top picks, but he fits into a role and has the size to be an immediate positive impact.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

I'd add Kenyon Martin Jr to the list as well. I know that situation is a bit contentious, but I would say he could be a rotation piece on a playoff team in the right role. Garuba showed role player promise in Euro Basket.

I think Green/Sengun will be more of "winning players" this year and like I said about Jabari, I think he's going to be a very good "winning" rookie. Might not have the touches/numbers of the other top picks, but he fits into a role and has the size to be an immediate positive impact.

Then you compare what you described above with the fact we have 9 nba legit rotation players… like every team in the league would play… not including guys that could be good young players… Lauri and Collin are already like a few steps further along than green sengun and likely to take a step forward. I just think it’s obvious we are a quite a bit better than Houston and San Antonio… OKC it depends on how they manage SGA and Dort. 4-5 games could be the difference between 3rd and 7th… it’s a pretty big pivot point if we don’t lose enough.