Jazz Officially Matched Hayward According to Woj

[fishonjazz]

because so many teams have cap space.

Tell that to BTP.
He is certain that this year was an abberation and no one has cap space after this year

 

[GVC]

4. Consistent with the culture and process envisioned by the Miller family.

I think even the most diehard fans don't grasp the power of #4...


If Gordon signed for 10 million a year for the next 4 years, it doesn't change the outcome down the road. Each team has to split the total salary between X number of roster spots. The pie is the pie, how it is divided up, at the end of the day is totally irrelevant.

1. How did last season fit into the culture and process traditionally envisioned by the Miller family?

2. In reference to the bolded and last season's management strategy as part of "the process", teams can choose to go light on talent and horde cap space instead of signing available players. Flexibility for future deals AND improved draft picks are valuable. I'm fairly neutral on this particular decision, but it's entirely possible the Jazz would be better off letting Gordo go and "tanking" for another season. If ownership wanted to go conservative with their rebuild, why not keep Millsap and Carroll? Why has the strategy seemingly shifted so drastically from one season to the next? Do they see something in Gordo? Would winning <30 games for a second consecutive season (which may happen anyway) cost too much relative to the potential benefit? I'm just having trouble seeing a plan. It doesn't help that DL was outsmarted by Gordo's agent throughout this process.

 

[SojoDave]

Obviously Gordon is not worth the max. However, DL had no choice but to match. We have to pay out 90% of the cap and there are no free agents that are better options. The problem is going to be when Gordon Hayward goes into one of his shooting funks and Burks is getting less minutes than Gordon. Snyder is gong to give Gordon more minutes, and we all know Gordon goes into his four or eight game funk where he can't throw it in the ocean, how is the rest of the team going to feel. Gordon is going to get booed more than he did on draft night. He doesn't seem like the kind of person who will handle that well. There is a chance that the Jazz could look really bad if Gordon has a worse year than last year. His shooting percentage has gone down every year, if it goes down next year....watch out.

 

[QuinSnydersHair]

GVC, hypothetically, next summer, could we sign a top free agent (let's say Marc Gasol) and then simply match on Burks....or extend Burks now and go after Gasol next summer? Financially, looking quickly at the numbers, it seems we could do so.

And let Kanter walk...

 

[UGLI baby]

Its also quite possible we can give someone a 2017 first round draft pick to take him off our hands in a couple years so we can clear cap room. Kind of like how we took on Richard Jefferson overpriced contract.

Zero chance of this happening outside of a devastating injury.

Jefferson is like 42 years old bro.

 

[Nate505]

I don't disagree that a center should be the rim protector. But we were paying AK47 the max and thought that he was going to be our rim protector. Memo and AK47 essentially switched roles. Memo performed his role beautifully. AK47 did not.

Also, when did a healthy AK47 come off the bench for a significant amount of time during the Boozer/Memo/AK/ era? I'd like to know.

Nice personal insults though. I thought this board had a rule against those? Colton, Nate, etc? Where are you guys?

The personal attack complaint rings a little hollow when he responded to this, from you:

That wasn't ever memo's role.

No one thought memo was a rim protector. No one.

If you thought that was his role then you're dumber than you look.

Just saying.

 

[Nate505]

And Utah is a young up and coming team with 2-3 years before they might be contenders. The have the time and financial means to absorb this contract. Not ideal but not a game ender.

I don't think this deal is ruinous to the team or anything, I just hate it.

The problem is though with the deal who knows what it could hamper in the future. Maybe nothing, maybe a future first round pick who ends up being great, maybe a diamond in the rough FA. On the other hand, as much as I hate this deal maybe Gordo proves me and others wrong and becomes a 20/6/5 sort of player who shoots at least 36% or so from the 3 point line.

 

[mellow]

I wanted to voice my opinion of the Hayward signing....

https://s814.photobucket.com/user/Kemisz86/media/princess-bride-boo1.gif

But, what do I care, it won't cost me my job if it doesn't work out. Right Dennis?

Nevertheless, when the ball goes up I will forget about the offseason drama and cheer for my team.

 

[Shocker00]

Zero chance of this happening outside of a devastating injury.

Jefferson is like 42 years old bro.

lol..well he was actually 33 last year. If Gordon has a bad year again this year, who in their right mind would trade for him at 15m a yr after two consecutive bad years? Why would a contender want Hayward when he can't shoot or defend? When a contract becomes a liability then you have to start giving stuff up for someone to take that bad contract. Its like buying a 1 lb block of cheese for 15.00 and storing it for a six months and trying to sell it to get your money back. If the cheese is all moldy and green your going to have a hard time getting your 15.00 back. They might actually want you to pay them money to throw your moldy cheese in the garbage for you so you don't have to touch it.

 

[Elizah Huge]

Ariza signed for 4-years 32 mil.

Ariza at 8 mil a year > Hayward at 16 mil a year

 

[The Midnight]

Obviously Gordon is not worth the max. However, DL had no choice but to match. We have to pay out 90% of the cap and there are no free agents that are better options. The problem is going to be when Gordon Hayward goes into one of his shooting funks and Burks is getting less minutes than Gordon. Snyder is gong to give Gordon more minutes, and we all know Gordon goes into his four or eight game funk where he can't throw it in the ocean, how is the rest of the team going to feel. Gordon is going to get booed more than he did on draft night. He doesn't seem like the kind of person who will handle that well. There is a chance that the Jazz could look really bad if Gordon has a worse year than last year. His shooting percentage has gone down every year, if it goes down next year....watch out.

I think one of the wrinkle in this deal is that with Burke and now Exum handling the ball and making plays, Hayward won't be made to create his own shots so much, he'll be spotting up a lot more and the FO hopes that Hayward will do a lot better in that role vs what he had to do last year.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Ariza signed for 4-years 32 mil.

Ariza at 8 mil a year > Hayward at 16 mil a year

You understand the price for him to come to Utah would have been more, right?