Jazz select Grayson Allen at 21

[fishonjazz]

Great interview. I really like this kid

 

[str8line]

What about all the tripping incidents and really dirty play by Allen? What about the scrum Mitchell and Allen got into? Does being a dweeb not get considered?

At least it shows he is competitive(albeit a little misguided). If he's good enough for Donovan he's good enough for me. I love this pick.

 

[str8line]

Here is the main thing I wanted from our draft this year.

When Donovan drives and passes, I wanted a guy who could hit an open 3. I also wanted a guy who could, if the defense closes out quickly, can put the ball on the floor and finish at the rim. If said player attacks the rim and the rim is protected, the player would be good enough to pass to an open teammate.

Grayson can do those things. He is a young Jamal Crawford and could have a long career.

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Sounds like Dante. We could be scary with Ricky, Don, Dante and Grayson. And Raul.

 

[Jazz Spazz]

Grayson atomy

Hand pads specifically.

 

[RandyForRubio]

Ben Dowsett said that in some other workout Allen hit 85/100 3’s.

That’s pretty damn impressive.

 

[Elizah Huge]

Ben Dowsett said that in some other workout Allen hit 85/100 3’s.

That’s pretty damn impressive.

Right. I don’t care if you’re Steph Curry and those are wide open threes. 85/100 is damn hard to do.

 

[Jazz Spazz]

That's what I said a while back when The Jimmer hit 92 of 100 for a charity event. The haters came out, it was fun.
It is pretty impressive imo.

 

[Elizah Huge]

That's what I said a while back when The Jimmer hit 92 of 100 for a charity event. The haters came out, it was fun.
It is pretty impressive imo.

I seriously loved Jimmer in college but he made all those threes in a high school gym from the corner. Not nearly as impressive as Allen hitting 85 from NBA range.

 

[Jazz Spazz]

I seriously loved Jimmer in college but he made all those threes in a high school gym from the corner. Not nearly as impressive as Allen hitting 85 from NBA range.

Yes 92 of 100 from farther away is more impressive, but still impressive for the consistency.
At the same time, I only care about what people do in an empty gym if it translates into makes in game.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

That's what I said a while back when The Jimmer hit 92 of 100 for a charity event. The haters came out, it was fun.
It is pretty impressive imo.

He led the league in 3 pt. percentage when the kings cut him... he could shoot... he couldn't do anything else though.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Ben Dowsett said that in some other workout Allen hit 85/100 3’s.

That’s pretty damn impressive.

that is... I laugh when guys get excited about 60/100 or a big shooting 40-50/100. I'm a pickup player... I make 60/100 from NBA in open gym shooting. I'm good, but there are 4-5 guys I play with that didn't make it past HS level who are way better shooters than I am.

85/100 is really good.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

I'm fine with the Grayson pick. After the Wizards took Brown I knew the Jazz were ****ed. I thought Brown or Huerter would go to Atlanta and the Jazz would take who dropped. At that point I thought there was only one high potential player left, Okobo. I'm disappointed we didnt go Okobo, but I think I know why they didnt.

I think they want to keep the relationship with Exum as positive as possible going into contract negotiations. If the Jazz draft another player who labels himself as a PG, maybe that turns Exum off from negotiating in good faith. If Exum signs with the Jazz long-term, there is still a clear path for him to be a starter in 2019/202 if he plays well enough (to be clear, I dont think this is likely, but I think it's important for Exum to think it is). When Allen got drafted all he has said is about how he is excited to play off ball more, which was probably a selling point for Utah since they have 3 rotation guards who are better on ball than off already. I know some people will roll their eyes at the thought of that, but I still think Utah believes in Exum (who is only a few months older than Allen).

If they took Okobo, it would be another player who needs to be on-ball to develop to his true potential. Not that Okobo is useless off-ball, but his biggest strength is off the dribble shooting and PNR. With Allen he has a bit more offensive versatility and a larger body of work to prove he is a good shooter. I bet they also believe in Allen's defense a bit more. They both showed similar issues defensively in PNR play, but Allen shows more fire in other areas which probably gives them hope he can translate that into playing more focused/high energy in a smaller role/minutes load on the defensive end.

As well, the Jazz's peak competitive years should start in Year 3 of Donovan's career (of this current iteration of the Jazz). By that time, Grayson Allen should essentially be in his prime (or close to it), so he fits in nicely with Utah's timeline as a discount Eric Gordon/6th man type.