Jazz trade John collins

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Giddy would be a blast. Is he worth 30 a year though?

I think the highest the Jazz can get to is 28.4 million.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W2ul7KEuytw


This guy did a video on what Utah could do after the trade regarding Giddey.

 

[framer]

This seems to be a move to open up cap space, but which RFAs or FAs are we going after? The notable RFAs are Kuminga, Giddey, Cam Thomas, and Grimes. I would want to go after Giddey.

Meh, convert it to a big trade exception we can use after next year's draft. You will get better deals from teams scrambling to get out of the apron selling off players for capspace.

 

[sip]

So nice to be 100% committed to a clear direction this offseason.

 

[KqWIN]

Giddey is going to want $30M AAV on a long deal. I think I like him more than most, but that is a heavy investment.

 

[Tremendous Upside]

The league hates players that don't defend after Boston and OKC won the title. Everyone views the NBA as a weak link league now where your defense is only as good as your worst defender.

(This is also extremely bad news for Keyonte and Sensabaugh and maybe bad for Filipowski as well, lol)

And Lauri.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Im not surprised the Jazz got off Collins/Clarkson/Sexton, but I am kind of surprised at the speed in which it happened. I thought this might be a thing that dragged into late July. Does make me wonder if they expedited it to be a player in the RFA game or if they just wanted the monkey off their back ASAP.

 

[LoPo]

Collins was a good dude while he was here

I always wanted Collins to here when we had Don and Rudy. Shame we got him after. He’s a good dude and deserves success. Best of luck to him.

 

[Shad]

No to giddey. We do not want 100 million tied to lauri, giddey, and walker.

Unless you trade walker

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Giddey is going to want $30M AAV on a long deal. I think I like him more than most, but that is a heavy investment.

Yeah, from what I read the Bulls want him at or under 25 per, and Giddey wants the Suggs contract (like you said 30 per year).

I think I would be OK with paying him 30 per year. He had a 3.0 BPM with the Bulls, and I wouldn't call his teammates great. Averaged 20-10-10 in the last two months of the season (obviously the least impressive time to do that, but still impressive). Was also the only player on the Bulls to show up for the play in game.

Just think he's kind of a perfect fit given the lack of playmakers we have, and he's become a reliable wide open shooter. He just kind of makes everyone the roster make more sense together in a way not a lot of obtainable players can.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Giddey is going to want $30M AAV on a long deal. I think I like him more than most, but that is a heavy investment.

Kuminga does too... I have bad news for both of them.

 

[HadAnEffectHere]

Yeah, from what I read the Bulls want him at or under 25 per, and Giddey wants the Suggs contract (like you said 30 per year).

I think I would be OK with paying him 30 per year. He had a 3.0 BPM with the Bulls, and I wouldn't call his teammates great. Averaged 20-10-10 in the last two months of the season (obviously the least impressive time to do that, but still impressive). Was also the only player on the Bulls to show up for the play in game.

Just think he's kind of a perfect fit given the lack of playmakers we have, and he's become a reliable wide open shooter. He just kind of makes everyone the roster make more sense together in a way not a lot of obtainable players can.

We finished 30th in defense in back to back seasons.

 

[framer]

No. We added like 18M in salary. We could have simply waived him. We wanted Collins.

Yes, but we got to roll Gay,s salary into Collins instead of paying them both.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

No to giddey. We do not want 100 million tied to lauri, giddey, and walker.

Unless you trade walker

Who else we going to pay in the next 4 years? Walker is the only upcoming RFA we have to worry about. He's 22 coming off a career season. Seems like the kind of smart risk to take. I just dont think it's really realistic given teh Bulls will probably just match whatever we can come up with.

 

[jom2003]

Wouldn't mind us playing Anderson. Not good enough to make a difference but intelligent enough to serve as a decent mentor for our young guys.

 

[tksavis]

Depends on what they want to do with Walker but it will be basically max or ability to get to max very easily.

There aren't going to be FAs you would want to max out though. Partly a guess based on which guys get extended. I would bet its more a thing where we would take someone's slightly overpaid good player or take on more bad salary, rather than land a big FA. Austin Reaves maybe... but do you want AR at 35-40M a year? Trae Young might be another candidate if he does not extend.

You’re forgetting Luka!

 

[infection]

Yes, but mainly that was to get off Rudy Gay.

Getting off $6.5M of Gay to get on $78M of Collins?

 

[jom2003]

Both Anderson and Love are high bbiq players who can teach our young players how to run a play in a slow, half court setting. I think there's a pretty decent chance we keep them around just to serve as mentors.

 

[Coach Ellis]

Who else we going to pay in the next 4 years? Walker is the only upcoming RFA we have to worry about. He's 22 coming off a career season. Seems like the kind of smart risk to take. I just dont think it's really realistic given teh Bulls will probably just match whatever we can come up with.

I think the Bulls will hold their nose and match the contract. Still think the Jazz should kick the tires and see what happens.

 

[framer]

The best use of the space would be to find a way to trade and waive Westbrook one more freaking time.

 

[KqWIN]

Kuminga and Giddey are basically in the same boat as players/prospects. Think I’d prefer Giddey just because of the type of player he is. We are over indexed on prospects with low IQ and want to score.