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[One Brow]

"Are you a god? "

When someone asks you if you are a god, you say "YES"!

What religion do you think I am?

 

[One Brow]

Is that you Gozer?

Great minds think alike. Appaently, so did we.

 

[PearlWatson]

Who is that?

It's my nickname for you. You said on hacks that it was okay that I call you that.

Jefferson's wisdom? The man who believed Jesus was a moral teacher whose views were distorted by Paul and the Gospel writiers? The man who said every man should be free to believe in as many gods as they desired, nor no god at all, and that this would do him no injury? The man who railed against the evils of organized religion? I find nothing to whine about regarding Jefferson's wisdom. Your presentation of that information was fundamentally inaccurate, but again that's nothing to whine about, it's de riguer.

His words say what they say. The quote on his Memorial in the capital begin with an added line, which I'm sure a Darwiniac won't like too much either, but here it is:

"God who gave us life gave us liberty. Can the liberties of a nation be secure when we have removed a conviction that these liberties are the gift of God?

It is too bad that atheists have lost this conviction but like Jefferson I think our liberties are in serious trouble if future generations don't regain it and hold on to this truth.

"We hold these truths to be self-evident: that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain inalienable rights, among these are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness, that to secure these rights governments are instituted among men.

Well, it makes a strong rant.

Okay we'll go with strong instead of fair.

The fourth institution is religion. While government can only govern men's actions, religion governs men's beliefs. Religion sets an ideal, something to aspire to. It encourages men to aspire for it, and lays down the road they must follow to obtain it. In some ways, it can be argued that religion is the pillar that bears all other pillars up. Without a religious belief that laws must be followed, government would cease to exist. Without a religious belief that one must work and benefit society, business would collapse. Without a religious belief in the family and in dedicating oneself to it, families would evaporate.

I especially like the bolded part. It is so true that we become better when we aspire to something greater than ourselves. Religion is essential in the encouragement of this. Even when we grow up and are no longer living with our parents religion is still there to remind us of who we are and the great things we can become.

 

[One Brow]

It's my nickname for you. You said on hacks that it was okay that I call you that.

Doesn't sound like me. I'm particular about my name, both legal and on-line. It's one of my quirks.

His words say what they say. The quote on his Memorial in the capital begin with an added line, which I'm sure a Darwiniac won't like too much either,

Jefferson was a deist, who believed in a creator that set the universe off, then left it alone. Darwiniacs have no problem with Jefferson's God.

... I think our liberties are in serious trouble if future generations don't regain it and hold on to this truth.

I think our liberties are better preserved if we don't tie them to allegiance to a bronze-age myth. Religion can motivate people to lie and brutalize even more easily that it can inspire them.

I especially like the bolded part. It is so true that we become better when we aspire to something greater than ourselves. Religion is essential in the encouragement of this.

I do aspire to become something greater than myself, and I aspire that my culture be something greater than itself. I don't need superstition for that.

 

[PearlWatson]

Jefferson was a deist, who believed in a creator that set the universe off, then left it alone. Darwiniacs have no problem with Jefferson's God.

LOL! A Darwiniac who believes with all his might that life began by accident in a puddle of goo has no problem with creationism or intelligent design. Dumbest thing I've ever heard.

I think our liberties are better preserved if we don't tie them to allegiance to a bronze-age myth. Religion can motivate people to lie and brutalize even more easily that it can inspire them.

Nonsense. The preservation of our liberties is tied to the belief in a higher power/creator. Don't lie is right there in the 10 commandments that Christians teach their kids. ( I guess I have to put a caveat that I'm only talking about religions that have respect for life)

I do aspire to become something greater than myself, and I aspire that my culture be something greater than itself. I don't need superstition for that.

You don't believe there is anything greater than yourself so that ain't the truth.

 

[TroutBum]

You don't believe there is anything greater than yourself so that ain't the truth.

After 1,700+ posts of pure crap, you finally post something relevant. I'm still going to -14 you as soon as possible though, because I really just hate you that bad.

 

[Jazz Spazz]

After 1,700+ posts of pure crap, you finally post something relevant. I'm still going to -14 you as soon as possible though, because I really just hate you that bad.

Anakin, is that you? I don't know if you fully realize what anger is going to turn you into.... but Yoda did warn you.