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Sardines said:
Holy ****.

She said she supported the bipartisan bill? The one that Trump killed from the sidelines like a bad parent with a kid in flag football running onto the field to tackle a 5 year old so that their child doesn't get embarrassed.

Is that what we're talking about here?

I thought she actually said in her own words that she was going to build a boarder wall.

What I didn't think seeing all this was that she said she supported a now dead piece of legislation that Trump had executed.

Were you actively trying to be dishonest and misleading, or were you simply fooled by others who were being dishonest and misleading?
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"If she's elected president, Kamala Harris pledges to spend hundreds of millions of dollars on the wall along the southern border — a project she once opposed and called "un-American" during the Trump administration."

So this left leaning website put an article out that is lying? I’m just trying to learn here. Not big into politics.
 
Sardines said:
I thought she actually said in her own words that she was going to build a boarder wall.
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She did more than that. She cut a campaign advertisement showing the border wall in about every other shot with voiceover tying the border wall to Kamala. It is images of Kamala, then pictures of wall, more pictures of Kamala, pictures of scary guns and drugs that would come across the border if it weren't for Kamala, pictures of wall, pictures of brave law enforcement, some flags, more pictures of wall, more pictures of Kamala, and finally the "I approve this message".



It isn't 'I support a wall only because I have to due to an obligation in legislation that didn't pass'.

The campaign knew the border had the public's attention so they got aggressive, then they got push-back, and now they are back peddling saying it was only because of bipartisan legislation. Kamala is so pathetic. Take a stand. Do it or don't do it. If Kamala wants to be the leader of the free world then she should be leading, not cowering, letting spokespeople and op/ed writers leak positions for her.
 
It’s amazing how often the trumpers on here have to outright lie about the Democratic candidate in order to make them look worse than they are.
 
Elizah Huge said:
"If she's elected president, Kamala Harris pledges to spend hundreds of millions of dollars on the wall along the southern border.
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Those aren't Kamala Harris words. A writer typed that sentence with their words.



What you are reading is untrue misinformation.

I literally explained it to you in my last post. Read my post again.

They are taking the fact that she supports a piece of legislation that has border wall funding as to mean that she is all about that border wall.

Again, if you believe that is true then you must also believe that trump is anti border wall since he killed the legislation to fund the border wall.

I'm guessing you don't think trump is anti border wall based off him being anti legislation to fund the border wall but you do think that Kamala is pro border wall because she wants the legislation to pass. That doesn't make any sense.

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fishonjazz said:
Those aren't Kamala Harris words. A writer typed that sentence with their words.



What you are reading is untrue misinformation.

I literally explained it to you in my last post. Read my post again.

They are taking the fact that she supports a piece of legislation that has border wall funding as to mean that she is all about that border wall.

Again, if you believe that is true then you must also believe that trump is anti border wall since he killed the legislation to fund the border wall.

I'm guessing you don't think trump is anti border wall based off him being anti legislation to fund the border wall but you do think that Kamala is pro border wall because she wants the legislation to pass. That doesn't make any sense.

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Sorry brother it’s hard to even know what Kamala believes or what her policies are because she won’t answer questions or do an unscripted press conference.
 
Elizah Huge said:
Sorry brother it’s hard to even know what Kamala believes or what her policies are because she won’t answer questions or do an unscripted press conference.
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Thats fine but what isn't fine is the media deceiving you and other americans with this garbage so im explaining it to you.

Imagine if the jazz trade Conley, NAW, Vando, and Beasley and after the trade the media came out was like "the jazz are excited to look to future of building a championship contender centered around Russell Westbrook, Juan Toscano-Anderson and Damian Jones". And people believed that ****. You would probably lol and maybe try to explain what the trade was actually about for the jazz. I mean technically the jazz traded for those guys so the reporter could mislead readers about the reason why those players were included in the trade for the jazz.

That is what is happening here. A much much smaller amount than trumpers in congress wanted for the border funding was included in a large piece of legislation including lots of things and the media is trying to make it seem like border funding was the key thing that kamala harris wanted in the legislation. That is untrue. (in fact, Harris had almost nothing to do with the creation of the bill in question here)

It's like if I tell my wife "I will do the dishes if you make my favorite meal" and then the media be like "fishonjazz loves doing dishes!"
 
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Elizah Huge said:
"If she's elected president, Kamala Harris pledges to spend hundreds of millions of dollars on the wall along the southern border — a project she once opposed and called "un-American" during the Trump administration."

So this left leaning website put an article out that is lying? I’m just trying to learn here. Not big into politics.
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It's all good man. Yeah, that website was misleading.
 



In reading about the disturbance during Trump’s visit to Arlington yesterday, which veteran groups are criticizing, I thought of this event from his term:

President Trump pushes aside the Prime Minister of Montenegro during a NATO Summit photo opp.

Trump first! No class. No integrity. And no honor whatsoever. That was Donald Trump at Arlington yesterday.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pfbNIb2-0ks&pp=ygU6VHJ1bXAgcHVzaGluZyBhc2lkZSBhIGZvcmVpZ24gaGVhZCBvZiBzdGF0ZSB0byBiZSBpbiBmcm9udA%3D%3D
 
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In reading about the disturbance during Trump’s visit to Arlington yesterday, which veteran groups are criticizing, I thought of this event from his term:

President Trump pushes aside the Prime Minister of Montenegro during a NATO Summit photo opp.

Trump first! No class. No integrity. And no honor whatsoever. That was Donald Trump at Arlington yesterday.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pfbNIb2-0ks&pp=ygU6VHJ1bXAgcHVzaGluZyBhc2lkZSBhIGZvcmVpZ24gaGVhZCBvZiBzdGF0ZSB0byBiZSBpbiBmcm9udA%3D%3D
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fishonjazz said:
It's misleading. If she is elected then she pledges to get the bipartisan border legislation that trump killed passed. Included in that bipartisan border deal is 650 million dollars (trump wanted 18 billion) for the border wall along with a bunch of other stuff.

So if that means she is pro border wall then the fact that trump killed that legislation, and the 650 million dollars, means that he is against the border wall. (Pretty silly statement to make don't ya think?)

Now if you can show me where Harris said that she fought so hard to get money for the border wall included in the legislation because that was such an important part of the legislation then cool. But what actually happened is that Republicans wanted that border wall money in the legislation and Democrats wanted the legislation to pass so they included that border wall money in order to get Republicans to sign off on it. (This is called compromise) Which they did. Until trump told them not to.

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Yeah I think in another thread I posted an entire breakdown of this issue in an article. It is something the right is being very disingenuous about. Well, flat out lying really. Why can't we have decent people in politics?

Fish, you need to run for something. I would vote for you. Where is @TroutBum when you need him?
 
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