Jimmy Buckets gonna get MAX. Tobias Utah Bound?

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  1. jjscap

    jjscap Well-Known Member

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    PHI has an interesting decision to make. Embiid is on a max deal and they are preparing to offer Jimmy Butler max too. And they paid a lot to trade for Tobi. Because of the sunk cost they will feel like keeping him. But how are they gonna resign him considering Ben Simmon's a RFA next season? Perhaps Tobi will make a discount to PHI because he's happy there. Otherwise it wouldn't surprise me if they traded Simmons away. Their new front office has been making such bold moves lately.
     
  2. Tragic66

    Tragic66 Active Member

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    Ain’t happening.
     
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  3. SCS

    SCS Well-Known Member

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    They will re-sign Butler and Harris and then re-sign Simmons by going over the cap/tax using his bird rights. It's not that difficult of a decision.
     
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  4. fishonjazz

    fishonjazz Well-Known Member Contributor 2019 Award Winner 2018 Award Winner

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    Might be an easy decision for the sixers but is it an easy decision for harris?

    After the trade to philly harris shot attempts went down, field goal percentage went down, 3 point percentage went way down (43.4 to 32.6) number of free throw attempts went down, free throw percentage went down, rebounds remained about the same as did assists, points per game went down.


    Hopefully he will want to leave


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  5. Engorged On Unborn Gore

    Engorged On Unborn Gore Well-Known Member

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    Tsssss.....

    You naysayers sound like you've been neutered with a ****ing rubber band.
     
  6. colton

    colton All Around Nice Guy Staff Member

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    Not to speak for fish, but Boozer signed with the Jazz in 2004 so anything after that is irrelevant when comparing how large of a free agent signing it is.
     
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  7. colton

    colton All Around Nice Guy Staff Member

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    Aha, fish spoke for himself. :)
     
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  8. Scat

    Scat Well-Known Member

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    Slipped is a bit of an understatement as he was picked 35th in the 2nd round.
     
  9. TheStormofWar

    TheStormofWar Well-Known Member

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    Philly could and probably would go over the tax to keep Butler, Harris, and Simmons. Not even sure why this is a question.
     
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  10. JimLes

    JimLes Well-Known Member

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    I should've read more carefully. Mea culpa.
     
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  11. gregbroncs

    gregbroncs Well-Known Member

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    It won't shut them up though. They'll just say it's a one time deal, Blah blah blah.
     
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  12. gregbroncs

    gregbroncs Well-Known Member

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    Because they also need to worry about Embiid. They signing 4 max contracts? That's an expensive team.
     
  13. Wes Mantooth

    Wes Mantooth Well-Known Member

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    They’ll give it a year or two and if it’s not netting Finals appearances or rings, they’ll try to move one of them.
     
  14. NUMBERICA

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    Bear in mind that if Tobias bets on himself by seeking a 3 + 1, Philly's advantage evaporates. Hell, they're probably working at a disadvantage because it wouldn't make sense for him to take a 3 + 1 on a team of ball-dominant assholes that care as much about talking **** as taking their craft seriously.
     
  15. Douchebag K

    Douchebag K Well-Known Member

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    i don't think it'll be their choice. If they're maxing and committing to Jimmy, I can't see Tobias staying
     
  16. SCS

    SCS Well-Known Member

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    That is the hope
     
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  17. Handlogten's Heros

    Handlogten's Heros Well-Known Member 2019 Award Winner

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    He’s not restricted but I’d throw out the poison 3+1 with a trade kicker and see if he makes Philly offer a contract that has some less than desirable details if you are trading the player. Make it clear we are signing him to keep him.
     
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  18. Handlogten's Heros

    Handlogten's Heros Well-Known Member 2019 Award Winner

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    If they keep JJ and those guys it starts to get really tricky to feel out the rest of those guys... can’t use full MLE in that case because they’d be hard capped at the apron. Get hard capped and you can’t bring in minimum dudes. If they max them both someone is getting traded and they’d both likely know it going in... not a great situation when you already have some tough personalities.
     
  19. NUMBERICA

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    Andy Larsen mentioned that Tobias wasn't happy with how his time on the Sixers played out. I'm not sure what his source is, but if it's not that radio station tweet then that is another drop in the bucket to get a little excited about.

    I know that Brooklyn and Dallas are real threats, but my arguments against them would be:
    -Do we know that Dallas will actually be good? Do we have reason to believe that Porzingis' freak body can hold up when there is literally no precedence for that? Does Tobias care that between likely being a vicious rapist, getting in street fights, and the particulars of his time in New York, that Porzingis might just be the ********* person?
    -Do we know that Brooklyn could actually be good? It's great that they made it to the playoffs in one of ********* conferences ever, but are they actually good? Does he even know what team he'd end up signing with considering all of the maneuvering they might be doing? Will they even have the cap-space at the end of it all?

    If culture and basketball are what he cares about most, I would be most concerned with Indiana.
     
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  20. framer

    framer Well-Known Member

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    How many all star appearances, all NBA teams, does Harris have?
     

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