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Saint Cy of JFC said:
He needs to get into it with somene and feed off the energy of trash talking.

I dont recall, but when Brooks was going off, was Ingles ever on him? It seems like Brooks should be the kind of guy Ingles can guard effectively and that matchup would be a lot of fun from a trash-talk perspective.
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Thatd sure be better than him being passive and not touching the ball
 
I think there was a point right after a timeout where Quin was pissed at him for not shooting. Next play after the break he drained a three. He shouldn’t have to be forced to shoot.


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Saint Cy of JFC said:
He needs to get into it with somene and feed off the energy of trash talking.

I dont recall, but when Brooks was going off, was Ingles ever on him? It seems like Brooks should be the kind of guy Ingles can guard effectively and that matchup would be a lot of fun from a trash-talk perspective.
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I think I'd actually like to see Joe on Ja a bit... he slides into position and he can sag off him and dare him to shoot a bit. Joe sometimes struggles with guys that are more physical... I'd like to see Royce on Brooks as I think its the type of guy he can guard well...

You know who was pretty good I thought? NIANG... he got into him a little and made him work... he still hit a contested fade away but Niang played him about as close as you can. Niang has the girth to deal with the contact too.

Yup we are only one game in and I went to Niang as our possible perimeter defensive stopper. I really wish we had kept Shaq and played him over Oni... he's done some good spot defensive work on Dame. Oni has been a huge disappointment based on how the front office was pitching him to us this season. He's worth keeping around but we still need a do-**** hustle player... even a guy like Alize Johnson or David Nwaba who can't really shoot it much would add some spark/fire. Once DM is back there are no minutes for for Oni and Niang is better than all of those options... so I kinda get it... but why not use the Matt Thomas second rounder to get a good situational guy that might fill in when we need that type of dude. Torrey Craig is another guy I'd like.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
I think I'd actually like to see Joe on Ja a bit... he slides into position and he can sag off him and dare him to shoot a bit. Joe sometimes struggles with guys that are more physical... I'd like to see Royce on Brooks as I think its the type of guy he can guard well...

You know who was pretty good I thought? NIANG... he got into him a little and made him work... he still hit a contested fade away but Niang played him about as close as you can. Niang has the girth to deal with the contact too.

Yup we are only one game in and I went to Niang as our possible perimeter defensive stopper. I really wish we had kept Shaq and played him over Oni... he's done some good spot defensive work on Dame. Oni has been a huge disappointment based on how the front office was pitching him to us this season. He's worth keeping around but we still need a do-**** hustle player... even a guy like Alize Johnson or David Nwaba who can't really shoot it much would add some spark/fire. Once DM is back there are no minutes for for Oni and Niang is better than all of those options... so I kinda get it... but why not use the Matt Thomas second rounder to get a good situational guy that might fill in when we need that type of dude. Torrey Craig is another guy I'd like.
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When Spence and Tony tweeted about Shaq I thought of you.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
I think I'd actually like to see Joe on Ja a bit... he slides into position and he can sag off him and dare him to shoot a bit. Joe sometimes struggles with guys that are more physical... I'd like to see Royce on Brooks as I think its the type of guy he can guard well...

You know who was pretty good I thought? NIANG... he got into him a little and made him work... he still hit a contested fade away but Niang played him about as close as you can. Niang has the girth to deal with the contact too.

Yup we are only one game in and I went to Niang as our possible perimeter defensive stopper. I really wish we had kept Shaq and played him over Oni... he's done some good spot defensive work on Dame. Oni has been a huge disappointment based on how the front office was pitching him to us this season. He's worth keeping around but we still need a do-**** hustle player... even a guy like Alize Johnson or David Nwaba who can't really shoot it much would add some spark/fire. Once DM is back there are no minutes for for Oni and Niang is better than all of those options... so I kinda get it... but why not use the Matt Thomas second rounder to get a good situational guy that might fill in when we need that type of dude. Torrey Craig is another guy I'd like.
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Ehh, pretty Joe is on record that Ja is one of his least favorite players to guard. He said on the Duncan Robinson podcast that he thinks he struggles to guard guys like Fox and Morant.
 
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When Spence and Tony tweeted about Shaq I thought of you.
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Shaqs physical disruptive defense is kinda perfect for the playoffs. I understood the deal until we burned a second to get the poor mans version of Wayne Ellington. Would have been better to hold onto Shaq but I doubt he would have ever been given an opportunity here unfortunately.

I hope next year they add some disruptive perimeter defense. I think steals were over-rated for a while because guys like AI got a lot of them by gambling all the time and getting burned... but I think they are now super underrated because of how good the shooting is... back in the day play good possession defense and you’d force tough shots that miss... now a lot of those tough shots still go in... so steals have more value now imo.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
Ehh, pretty Joe is on record that Ja is one of his least favorite players to guard. He said on the Duncan Robinson podcast that he thinks he struggles to guard guys like Fox and Morant.
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Prolly true. It’s tough to get to that matchup anyway. Curious to see how we line up tonight with our starting lineup now in tact.
 
No way in hell Shaq could play in the playoffs. He's not even getting minutes on the team he's a good fit for.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
No way in hell Shaq could play in the playoffs. He's not even getting minutes on the team he's a good fit for.
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He is getting spot minutes and doing well. Played great defense on dame... did you watch?
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
He is getting spot minutes and doing well. Played great defense on dame... did you watch?
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He got minutes in a blowout. Zero minutes in game 1.

Jazz have Forrest, who is better in every aspect to Shaq. If they get that desperate, they have an option.

But they won't. They are fine.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
He got minutes in a blowout. Zero minutes in game 1.

Jazz have Forrest, who is better in every aspect to Shaq. If they get that desperate, they have an option.

But they won't. They are fine.
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2 minutes at the end of the half... they went on an 8-0 run... Dame had just dropped 20 in the half... Shaq was in his shorts. Forrest may be better but he isn't this disruptive yet.
 
I just think Shaq is a better defender than Oni and he won't play scared... they both likely miss 3s at the same rate since Oni is in a funk.

I actually think Forrest should have played instead of Oni... we need ball handling and creation... Oni seems scared as hell to dribble or do anything other than shoot an open jumper.
 
Exum would have gotten an additional 18 months of grace for something like this:

 
Handlogten's Heros said:
I think I'd actually like to see Joe on Ja a bit... he slides into position and he can sag off him and dare him to shoot a bit. Joe sometimes struggles with guys that are more physical... I'd like to see Royce on Brooks as I think its the type of guy he can guard well...

You know who was pretty good I thought? NIANG... he got into him a little and made him work... he still hit a contested fade away but Niang played him about as close as you can. Niang has the girth to deal with the contact too.

Yup we are only one game in and I went to Niang as our possible perimeter defensive stopper. I really wish we had kept Shaq and played him over Oni... he's done some good spot defensive work on Dame. Oni has been a huge disappointment based on how the front office was pitching him to us this season. He's worth keeping around but we still need a do-**** hustle player... even a guy like Alize Johnson or David Nwaba who can't really shoot it much would add some spark/fire. Once DM is back there are no minutes for for Oni and Niang is better than all of those options... so I kinda get it... but why not use the Matt Thomas second rounder to get a good situational guy that might fill in when we need that type of dude. Torrey Craig is another guy I'd like.
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I'd like to see anyone guarding Morant go under the screen. Not sure why we kept going over on a fast guard that can't shoot.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
Ehh, pretty Joe is on record that Ja is one of his least favorite players to guard. He said on the Duncan Robinson podcast that he thinks he struggles to guard guys like Fox and Morant.
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See this is a problem. Even if it's true someone with a champion mind-set says "**** it, I'll knock they *** down".
 
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