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John Hollinger Thinks Conley May Opt Out

This actually does not help us use our exceptions this year unless we plan on signing one year deals... which doesn't net you as good a player or nets you a better player but only for a year until more cap space opens up. This really isn't something we should do.
 
We honestly should be hunting for what we could get in trade for Mike... Not sure anything great turns up but if you are planning on JC and DM being around long term its not an ideal fit. I am still eyeing Philly and what they do... Wondering how big the premium they will pay to get off of Al Horford's money.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
We honestly should be hunting for what we could get in trade for Mike... Not sure anything great turns up but if you are planning on JC and DM being around long term its not an ideal fit. I am still eyeing Philly and what they do... Wondering how big the premium they will pay to get off of Al Horford's money.
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This is where I’m at.

The idea of keeping Conley until he’s ~35 years old makes me ****ing sick, tbh.
 
Joncolton said:
If you sign him to a 4 year - you are planning on using him as backup PG. Which 17 for a good backup PG is reasonable. John Stockton was still in his prime at 35/36 years old. Now, NO ONE had Stockton-Malone style longevity. But with nutritional supplements of the day and "load management" - I could see Conley being very efficient in a back up role through the age of 37/38 - even one of the best in the NBA.
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Even then Stockton was past his prime by the time he was 35. Players rarely maintain that level of production...
 
FAILED STATE said:
This is where I’m at.

The idea of keeping Conley until he’s ~35 years old makes me ****ing sick, tbh.
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It would be classic DL double down on a bad deal type ****.
 
There is also part of this that has to do with the current financial cap stuff. There is a chance that the cap stays the same or stays with the original projection but that the escrow moves from 10% to 25%. Normally the players will get the escrow back at the end of the year but next likely not. So Mike's cap number will be 34m but his actual earnings would be more like 26M. So giving back 17M now is not a full 17M.

Anyway, I don't see it as viable as it just makes the rest of the cap planning murky and provides nothing of real value other than like some payday loan type financing for the owners.
 
FAILED STATE said:
For sure, which is why my sphincter puckered when I read the OP
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I just don't know how you watched that playoff and think "Small guards are the next big thing... lets keep the aging one to pair with our best player who is also a small guard"
 
My guess is this:
- Conley opts in for next year because, well, $34M
- He does what the team asks, still a role model, yada, yada, yada
- Becomes free and clear in 2021, 33 years old and looks to take a deal on a contender for whatever they might pay for some vet help. Starting or not, he wants the ring

Does Conley really think Utah can be that team 3-4 years down the road? My guess is no, he'll go hitch a wagon to what Kawhi/Giannis are doing.
 
Avery said:
My guess is this:
- Conley opts in for next year because, well, $34M
- He does what the team asks, still a role model, yada, yada, yada
- Becomes free and clear in 2021, 33 years old and looks to take a deal on a contender for whatever they might pay for some vet help. Starting or not, he wants the ring

Does Conley really think Utah can be that team 3-4 years down the road? My guess is no, he'll go hitch a wagon to what Kawhi/Giannis are doing.
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This feels right... takes the MLE from a contender after this year unless he balls out and then gets a bigger 1 year offer from a team that misses on its big FA target.
 
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