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John Hollinger Thinks Conley May Opt Out

Saint Cy of JFC said:
To be clear, I'd love to have him on the MLE. He isnt a starter on this team though, so I have no idea why he would come here.
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I’d tell him he could start. MLE is way too good of value on him to pass up.

I could see a double sign and trade with Wood and Montrezl where the clippers add other stuff to make it work.
 
Wood likely has 12-15 better options than signing here for the MLE so it ain’t worth arguing about.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
It's not though. You would lose a ton of defense without Ingles or Royce starting. Who is guarding the star wings in that starting lineup?

If we got Wood I'd like to see him be a 25 mpg guy who is the primary backup 5 and plays in some lineups with Gobert.

He isn't a 4. He's a guy who needs to be put in pnr and pnps. With Rudy in the lineup he'd be either be on the perimeter or the dunkers spot
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Hey dude.

DM
Royce or Joe
Bojan
Wood
Rudy


That was a tough solution requiring tons of CPU power for regression analyses etc etc
 
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Saint Cy of JFC said:
No way in hell is anyone maxing Wood for 9 games of great stats play on a tanking team.
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9 games?

Wood played 62 games this season, and was solid all year. If you split his season into 3 periods that roughly follow his minutes increases, it's amazing how consistent he was on a per minute basis.

Per 36 minutes:
EndGMPGPTSTRBASTSTLBLKTOPFFG%3P%FT%TS%+/-Net +/-GmSc
Dec 232715:0021.711.41.20.82.02.32.4.623.417.635.683+5.8+9.019.3
Feb 22020:2520.410.61.61.01.52.33.0.517.326.824.643-0.4+2.317.3
End1534:0423.510.02.01.01.12.32.6.562.410.759.654+0.5+21.519.7

A few other relevant stats:
  • BR has 47% of his minutes at PF and 53% at C
  • 21.6% of his plays were spotups, where his 1.19 PPP put him in the 85.9th percentile (Bojan 1.11, Ingles 1.01, Mitchell 1.10, Conley 1.14, Royce 1.14, Clarkson 1.07)
  • 19.7% of his plays were as a PnR roll man, where his 1.50 PPP put him in the 95.4th percentile (Rudy 1.22)
  • Niang, Bradley, Davis, Green, Morgan and Brantley played a combined 2,672 minutes for the Jazz this past season, an average of 37.1 minutes per game

The Jazz need talent if they want to win. If they can get Wood at anything under $15 million without sacrificing much else, it's a no-brainer. Quin can figure out how to make the lineups work; there are minutes available.
 
GVC said:
9 games?

Wood played 62 games this season, and was solid all year. If you split his season into 3 periods that roughly follow his minutes increases, it's amazing how consistent he was on a per minute basis.

Per 36 minutes:
EndGMPGPTSTRBASTSTLBLKTOPFFG%3P%FT%TS%+/-Net +/-GmSc
Dec 232715:0021.711.41.20.82.02.32.4.623.417.635.683+5.8+9.019.3
Feb 22020:2520.410.61.61.01.52.33.0.517.326.824.643-0.4+2.317.3
End1534:0423.510.02.01.01.12.32.6.562.410.759.654+0.5+21.519.7

A few other relevant stats:
  • BR has 47% of his minutes at PF and 53% at C
  • 21.6% of his plays were spotups, where his 1.19 PPP put him in the 85.9th percentile (Bojan 1.11, Ingles 1.01, Mitchell 1.10, Conley 1.14, Royce 1.14, Clarkson 1.07)
  • 19.7% of his plays were as a PnR roll man, where his 1.50 PPP put him in the 95.4th percentile (Rudy 1.22)
  • Niang, Bradley, Davis, Green, Morgan and Brantley played a combined 2,672 minutes for the Jazz this past season, an average of 37.1 minutes per game

The Jazz need talent if they want to win. If they can get Wood at anything under $15 million without sacrificing much else, it's a no-brainer. Quin can figure out how to make the lineups work; there are minutes available.
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Homeboy was good all year. Was good the year before too but in a flash type of mode. It was criminal that he didn’t get more run early.
 
GVC said:
9 games?

Wood played 62 games this season, and was solid all year. If you split his season into 3 periods that roughly follow his minutes increases, it's amazing how consistent he was on a per minute basis.

Per 36 minutes:
EndGMPGPTSTRBASTSTLBLKTOPFFG%3P%FT%TS%+/-Net +/-GmSc
Dec 232715:0021.711.41.20.82.02.32.4.623.417.635.683+5.8+9.019.3
Feb 22020:2520.410.61.61.01.52.33.0.517.326.824.643-0.4+2.317.3
End1534:0423.510.02.01.01.12.32.6.562.410.759.654+0.5+21.519.7

A few other relevant stats:
  • BR has 47% of his minutes at PF and 53% at C
  • 21.6% of his plays were spotups, where his 1.19 PPP put him in the 85.9th percentile (Bojan 1.11, Ingles 1.01, Mitchell 1.10, Conley 1.14, Royce 1.14, Clarkson 1.07)
  • 19.7% of his plays were as a PnR roll man, where his 1.50 PPP put him in the 95.4th percentile (Rudy 1.22)
  • Niang, Bradley, Davis, Green, Morgan and Brantley played a combined 2,672 minutes for the Jazz this past season, an average of 37.1 minutes per game

The Jazz need talent if they want to win. If they can get Wood at anything under $15 million without sacrificing much else, it's a no-brainer. Quin can figure out how to make the lineups work; there are minutes available.
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Also his on/off splits were amazing... all the advanced impact metrics love him. It wasn’t just numbers on a ****** team type stuff.
 
GVC said:
9 games?

Wood played 62 games this season, and was solid all year. If you split his season into 3 periods that roughly follow his minutes increases, it's amazing how consistent he was on a per minute basis.

Per 36 minutes:
EndGMPGPTSTRBASTSTLBLKTOPFFG%3P%FT%TS%+/-Net +/-GmSc
Dec 232715:0021.711.41.20.82.02.32.4.623.417.635.683+5.8+9.019.3
Feb 22020:2520.410.61.61.01.52.33.0.517.326.824.643-0.4+2.317.3
End1534:0423.510.02.01.01.12.32.6.562.410.759.654+0.5+21.519.7

A few other relevant stats:
  • BR has 47% of his minutes at PF and 53% at C
  • 21.6% of his plays were spotups, where his 1.19 PPP put him in the 85.9th percentile (Bojan 1.11, Ingles 1.01, Mitchell 1.10, Conley 1.14, Royce 1.14, Clarkson 1.07)
  • 19.7% of his plays were as a PnR roll man, where his 1.50 PPP put him in the 95.4th percentile (Rudy 1.22)
  • Niang, Bradley, Davis, Green, Morgan and Brantley played a combined 2,672 minutes for the Jazz this past season, an average of 37.1 minutes per game

The Jazz need talent if they want to win. If they can get Wood at anything under $15 million without sacrificing much else, it's a no-brainer. Quin can figure out how to make the lineups work; there are minutes available.
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Killer.

Short of the Knicks straight up bailing us out of Conley’s last year, it would require significant sacrifice (some combination of essentially extending Conley at a sufficiently reduced number for next year, losing Clarkson, using picks to jettison TB/Ed), would require the Jazz to field an offer competitive to Detroit’s (and they have a huge cap advantage), and he’d have to want to come here. But if he cares about winning and the Jazz can field a competitive financial offer then I think the Jazz would have the edge.

It’s a lot of moving parts and if I was the Jazz I would throw the kitchen sink at it. Athletic, switchable 4/5s that can protect the rim and hit 3s are uncommon, even those that aren’t as productive/efficient (23 PER, .66 TS%, great WS rate and on/off splits) as Wood has been for two years now. And we could use some Rudy insurance to boot.

It’s worth the sacrifice and the dice-roll.
 
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Saint Cy of JFC said:
If the backup is your 6th man and a starter quality player, then yeah, it's completely reasonable.
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Let’s do the math. On Mitchell + Gobert + Conley at that new 17M price + Bojan @18.7M + Joe @14M + Clarkson + Royce @8.8M in two years.

That’s 58.5M plus Clarkson, Gobert and Mitchell. Plus the filler on our team which would likely be another 5-10M. At least.

Yeah, completely reasonable.

If you’re an L.A. market.
 
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NUMBERICA said:
Killer.

Short of the Knicks straight up bailing us out of Conley’s last year, it would require significant sacrifice (some combination of essentially extending Conley at a sufficiently reduced number for next year, losing Clarkson, using picks to jettison TB/Ed), would require the Jazz to field an offer competitive to Detroit’s (and they have a huge cap advantage), and he’d have to want to come here. But if he cares about winning and the Jazz can field a competitive financial offer then I think the Jazz would have the edge.

It’s a lot of moving parts and if I was the Jazz I would throw the kitchen sink at it. Athletic, switchable 4/5s that can protect the rim and hit 3s are uncommon, even those that aren’t as productive/efficient (23 PER, .66 TS%, great WS rate and on/off splits) as Wood has been for two years now. And we could use some Rudy insurance to boot.

It’s worth the sacrifice and the dice-roll.
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This.

Philly could also bail us out. We either take Horford or find a third team. This seems like the mostly likely Conley trade to me.
 
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