[Jones]BREAKING: Jazz willing to engage Celtics in S&T talks: But Gordon Hayward must agree

[NAOS]

So I should assume the Jazz's protected first round pick is the best offer Boston can get?

Nah. Just pointing to very recent flaws in your logic and common sense. Those two things get in the way plenty of times -- especially when they contain straight-up errors.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

all his Thinking Time was absorbed in writing that kewl blog post, doe

I want to write an alternative one where he talks about making 3 all star games and increasing his brand awareness and does not mention the Butler Stevens deal. I think it was 75% eastern conference and 25% stevens... only one of those factors makes for a kewl blog post doe.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Just put yourself in Ainge's shoes. Why in the **** are you giving away Crowder for free when you can get value elsewhere? Unless there is some intense agent power going on, it just doesn't make sense.

You don't, but... we did his agent a solid and didn't roast them and even supported them during the **** show... if there was ever a time to call in the favor its now.

Time to cash in the social capital.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Nah. Just pointing to very recent flaws in your logic and common sense. Those two things get in the way plenty of times -- especially when they contain straight-up errors.

I just had an inaccurate spreadsheet of Celtics contract data that didnt account for the cap-holds on their new rookies.

 

[ekimebirt]

Danny Ainge is from BYU so he has some face saving to do as well. He is already hated by half of Utah but if he gives us nothing he will be sealing the fate of his sons campaign and also be hated by 90% of the state. There are a number of things that could be done as well. I would send AB, Diaw, and a lottery protected pick for Crowder and either Bradley,Smart or Jaylyn Brown.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

You don't, but... we did his agent a solid and didn't roast them and even supported them during the **** show... if there was ever a time to call in the favor its now.

Time to cash in the social capital.

I think a favor is like a 2nd round pick, maybe Terry Rozier, or maybe Avery Bradley.

I dont think a favor is here take one of the best contracts in the NBA.

 

[NAOS]

I just don't think we have any idea about the subtle and subterranean leverage that is in play here. Someone mentioned GMs' 'social capital'.... I think that's the right way into the understory here. And that could get compounded if Crowder himself wants out.

EDIT: it was HH. Ftw, per usual

 

[NAOS]

I just had an inaccurate spreadsheet of Celtics contract data that didnt account for the cap-holds on their new rookies.And then I believed it, even though it was an obvious error. And then I used it to poo poo on JFC.

Fixed

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

I'm sure they like him, but this is a starter on a 50 win team who is paid like an 8th man.

Don't be ridiculous.

Juan was great when given time. Was in a crowded frontcourt and is paid like a minimum player and has upside. Plus the team controls his next contract.

Per minute they are not far off from each other. Where would Hernangomez be selected in last year's draft in a redo... dude has a ton of value... don't downplay that by saying he averaged 5 pts a game.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

I just don't think we have any idea about the subtle and subterranean leverage that is in play here. Someone mentioned GM's 'social capital'.... I think that's the right way into the understory here. And that could get compounded if Crowder himself wants out.

Again, he has one of the best contracts in the NBA. He might be the most valuable non-star or rookie contract in the NBA. He isnt how one would payback a favor.


And I hope I'm wrong on all this, I really do. I'm not getting my hopes up though.

 

[Getting Traded]

Danny Ainge is from BYU so he has some face saving to do as well. He is already hated by half of Utah but if he gives us nothing he will be sealing the fate of his sons campaign and also be hated by 90% of the state. There are a number of things that could be done as well. I would send AB, Diaw, and a lottery protected pick for Crowder and either Bradley,Smart or Jaylyn Brown.

Why do people keep thinking we have to give the C's anything. Besides they are trying to shed salary. They wouldn't want anything but a pick, and I see no reason why we have to do that.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

I just had an inaccurate spreadsheet of Celtics contract data that didnt account for the cap-holds on their new rookies.

Well you could see that it didn't account for that stuff or follow the experts who talk about this stuff... it isn't a secret that they needed to move someone.