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just gonna lob this out there

Portland doesn't do it-- more importantly, I think what we have with Hayward/Favors/Gobert/Lyles is pretty special.

I think snagging a Conley or Teague-type of player, while keeping the core intact would make for a better team than this trade.

I don't think Rudy alone is good enough to make us a top 5 Defensive team, which is 100% the key to our relevance. It has always been the combination of Fav & Rudy at the 4 & 5 that has made us elite. It's so easy to take one player out of a play defensively, nearly impossible to take out two.
 
I've been thinking about this since I posted the idea. I think I'd probably do it, broughs. Dame is a killer. And Hayward would be an excellent complement to his game. Dame would love Gobert backing him. Dame/Hood/Hay/Lyles is LOTS of space.

If you think the space-and-pace era is here for a while, then I think you do that trade.

I agree, though, Portland doesn't do it. That's probably not because the prize winnings aren't good enough (that's a pretty good haul); I just don't think he's touchable until/if they strikeout in Free Agency.
 
NAOS said:
I've been thinking about this since I posted the idea. I think I'd probably do it, broughs. Dame is a killer. And Hayward would be an excellent complement to his game. Dame would love Gobert backing him. Dame/Hood/Hay/Lyles is LOTS of space.

If you think the space-and-pace era is here for a while, then I think you do that trade.

I agree, though, Portland doesn't do it. That's probably not because the prize winnings aren't good enough (that's a pretty good haul); I just don't think he's touchable until/if they strike out in Free Agency.
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This is a good, well balanced post.
 
Hack said:
You are the worst poster ever.

Hey guis, wut do you think of my completely implausible trade idea that I don't support.

Hilarious. that's so weak. Grow some balls man. You have no right to talk trash to me when you be posting garbage like this.
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You're toxic.
 
I don't think I'd do it because Lyles would just get destroyed on the defensive end.

That said, my initial two thoughts on this. Gobert and moreso, Exum, are overrated by this board.
I'd consider trading anyone.

Having said that, keep the core intact, get healthy, get pissed off this summer and work harder than they ever have in their lives, and win 57 games next year.
 
Hack said:
The window to get Lillard closed a long time ago. The time to load up on high potential talent has already passed us. We are pretty much all in on this team. I seriously doubt the organization has the cojones to make any big changes now.

If the Jazz were smart they would have traded AL and Millsap, and tanked, instead of chasing the 8th seed. We could have drafted Lillard ourselves that year because we would have kept our pick, AND most likely bumped GS past that 8th spot and we would have had that pick as well. It was a complete screw up the way they handled the situation then. It was obvious that this would happen. They half assed the tank job, and didn't get much out of it.

This is what you get when you have bad organization Philosophy.
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If Corbin hadn't been such a dumb *** and instead of trying to win those games at the end of the season, we could've gotten the pick that was Lillard. I remember people talking about it, that we shouldn't be trying to win games to make the playoffs so we could get Lillard. That's what we get for hanging on to Corbin. But it's too late now.
 
Cunning Linguist said:
I don't think I'd do it because Lyles would just get destroyed on the defensive end.

That said, my initial two thoughts on this. Gobert and moreso, Exum, are overrated by this board.
I'd consider trading anyone.

Having said that, keep the core intact, get healthy, get pissed off this summer and work harder than they ever have in their lives, and win 57 games next year.
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explain how exactly is Gobert overrated?!!
 
pointgawh said:
explain how exactly is Gobert overrated?!!
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I get what he is saying.
Some jazz fans think of Gobert as the same caliber as jimmy butler, kahwi Leonard, Anthony Davis, etc... In other words, a superstar.
 
I think we are much closer to winning via defense rather than trying to outgun the rest of the league, but I think this is an interesting topic to consider. Thanks for adding some interest to the board op.
 
It seems to me the Jazz have a lot riding on a lot of players eventually reaching their potential, while having two players that perform with any consistency (Hayward and Gobert). At some point, how good a player actually is needs to be considered, and the Jazz could use a player like Lillard in the worst way.

It's intriguing. But I doubt Portland seriously considers it.
 
NUMBERICA said:
It seems to me the Jazz have a lot riding on a lot of players eventually reaching their potential, while having two players that perform with any consistency (Hayward and Gobert). At some point, how good a player actually is needs to be considered, and the Jazz could use a player like Lillard in the worst way.

It's intriguing. But I doubt Portland seriously considers it.
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Favors is pretty darn consistent, no? I feel like this year he was.
 
Why on earth would the jazz do this?

Favors is a year younger and has much more room for the growth (offensively) but even so he is already a top 5 two way Power Forward in the league. Exum is five years younger and has already shown he can be an elite defender at this level, whilst he has a lot of potential to become very good on offense, given his size and speed for the Point Guard position. Then you add two first round picks, which could be a pick as high as 10 if we fail to reach the playoffs.

So all that for Lillard who although very good offensively (especially in the clutch), is a very poor defender and is a ball stopper. So he doesn't fit the side Quin is trying to build.
 
Cunning Linguist said:
Favors is pretty darn consistent, no? I feel like this year he was.
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I don't feel he is. Here are his points for the games he played: 26, 20, 18, 6, 6, 12, 17, 25, 5, 23, 18, 18, 11, 22, 23, 12, 35, 14, 20.

His rebounds fluctuate as well. He's not all that consistent.
 
Siro said:
I don't feel he is. Here are his points for the games he played: 26, 20, 18, 6, 6, 12, 17, 25, 5, 23, 18, 18, 11, 22, 23, 12, 35, 14, 20.

His rebounds fluctuate as well. He's not all that consistent.
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That's only three games with less than 11 points and the first two were coming back from being ill so in actuality, he's had one legit game of under 11 points and while that may be a low benchmark for you, the flipside is Blake Griffin also had one game under 11 points, and Lamarcus Aldridge has had 8, yes 8 games under 11 points. We perhaps need Favors more than LA or San Antonio need the aforementioned players night in and night out but you get the point. I hope.
 
fishonjazz said:
I get what he is saying.
Some jazz fans think of Gobert as the same caliber as jimmy butler, kahwi Leonard, Anthony Davis, etc... In other words, a superstar.
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He's was playing like a superstar last year. He's not having as good of a year. He was legitimately one of the best defenders last year.

I believe in Gobert. He'll find some rhythm again.

Part of the problem is that the team still isn't trying to get Gobert involved in the offense. Which is a mistake I think. Maybe it's because we don't have good enough point guard play.
 
Hack said:
He's was playing like a superstar last year. He's not having as good of a year. He was legitimately one of the best defenders last year.

I believe in Gobert. He'll find some rhythm again.

Part of the problem is that the team still isn't trying to get Gobert involved in the offense. Which is a mistake I think. Maybe it's because we don't have good enough point guard play.
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They don't try to get him the ball or he simply drops every pass that comes his way or has no offensive moves by the basket?
 
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