Kanter watch

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With Steven Adams being hurt for a couple of weeks I actually think this gives Kanter a great opportunity to prove if he can be a positive factor to winning basketball.

What really sucks is that Kanter was improving on D. Plus with Gobert behind him it hid some of his defensive short comings. Honestly Kanter is a ****ing idiot for wanting out. Gobert gave him possibly the best opportunity to succeed that he will ever have. Gobert could clean up after Kanter and Kanter being better offensively would get more touches. He will not have the same opportunity elsewhere.

OKC is a horrible fit for Kanter. Even if he starts for the next two weeks he won't get a lot of touches. On the defensive end, well we all know his problems there. Why do you think OKC has such a hard on for Adams? Do you think it's because he can score? or because he is a defensive presence. Adams fits Kanter don't.




yes I know I should have said doesn't #****thewrittenword

 

[The Blue Elephant]

What really sucks is that Kanter was improving on D. Plus with Gobert behind him it hid some of his defensive short comings. Honestly Kanter is a ****ing idiot for wanting out. Gobert gave him possibly the best opportunity to succeed that he will ever have. Gobert could clean up after Kanter and Kanter being better offensively would get more touches. He will not have the same opportunity elsewhere.

OKC is a horrible fit for Kanter. Even if he starts for the next two weeks he won't get a lot of touches. On the defensive end, well we all know his problems there. Why do you think OKC has such a hard on for Adams? Do you think it's because he can score? or because he is a defensive presence. Adams fits Kanter don't.

Really? I always heard about how OKC needs a post threat more than defense.

 

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Really? I always heard about how OKC needs a post threat more than defense.

It would be nice but not at the expense of defense.

Make no mistake OKC brought kanter in as a bench threat. He will not earn a starting spot in OKC. He will get fewer mins. He will get fewer touches.

 

[The Blue Elephant]

It would be nice but not at the expense of defense.

Make no mistake OKC brought kanter in as a bench threat. He will not earn a starting spot in OKC. He will get fewer mins. He will get fewer touches.

How much better is Adams really on defense???

Also I agree that Thunder did probably bring him to play off the bench. Kanter should dominate the benches of most teams after always having to practice against derrick favors and Rudy Gobert.

 

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It would be nice but not at the expense of defense.

Make no mistake OKC brought kanter in as a bench threat. He will not earn a starting spot in OKC. He will get fewer mins. He will get fewer touches.

In OKC too he will be more valuable as a bench player, especially if he plays his minutes when RW and KD are off the court. He would contribute big time to OKC's scoring while these two big deal dudes are resting. If he learns to play their game, he can jump to the starting line up in no time. I'm sure they'll experience with him as a starter since he has offensive game. And since Adams is off for 3 weeks. But after that, we shall see. Not everyone is Rudy though, maybe it won't be that hard for him to compete with Adams like he did with Rudy. It's a good thing he has Ibaka near him for the Rudy effect to patch his defensive wounds. Maybe this is the main reason he can actually be a good fit in OKC.

 

[colton]

It's OK. it's just a few clicks away from a moderator who sees this and is not feeling lazy.

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[The Blue Elephant]

As expected since Adams is hurt Kanter gets the start tonight. I would say he will probably be very lost on both ends of the floor but I think learning a system confuses him and he probably will do better lost and hopefully just focus on rebounds and tip ins.

 

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In OKC too he will be more valuable as a bench player, especially if he plays his minutes when RW and KD are off the court. He would contribute big time to OKC's scoring while these two big deal dudes are resting. If he learns to play their game, he can jump to the starting line up in no time. I'm sure they'll experience with him as a starter since he has offensive game. And since Adams is off for 3 weeks. But after that, we shall see. Not everyone is Rudy though, maybe it won't be that hard for him to compete with Adams like he did with Rudy. It's a good thing he has Ibaka near him for the Rudy effect to patch his defensive wounds. Maybe this is the main reason he can actually be a good fit in OKC.

Wait you think he will be more valuable as a 3rd/4th option with OKC starters than he was here as a 2nd/3rd option with the starters. As far as the bench goes he was the man in Utah. It was basically him and Burke. Our bench is a bunch of D-leaguers. Wasn't his season high like 32pts this year?(with Rudy getting big minutes) Do you honestly think he will have the opportunity to put up those numbers in OKC?

Also he wasn't really competing with Rudy. Rudy complemented Kanter really well. Rudy cleaned up after Kanter and Kanter is a better scorer. He was competing against himself and the system. Minutes wise he was competing with Booker. If he had bought into the system he could have eaten all of Bookers minutes. Unfortunately he was too concerned with his own numbers and too stubborn to realize that if he passed the ball teams would stop double teaming him. His turnovers would come down his fg% would go up and he would still put up the same number of points. If he takes that me first attitude to OKC he is going to spend a lot of time on the pine.

The truth is Kanter was much more valuable to Utah than he will ever be to OKC. Kanter bit the hand that fed him.

 

[addictionary]

Wait you think he will be more valuable as a 3rd/4th option with OKC starters than he was here as a 2nd/3rd option with the starters. As far as the bench goes he was the man in Utah. It was basically him and Burke. Our bench is a bunch of D-leaguers. Wasn't his season high like 32pts this year?(with Rudy getting big minutes) Do you honestly think he will have the opportunity to put up those numbers in OKC?

Also he wasn't really competing with Rudy. Rudy complemented Kanter really well. Rudy cleaned up after Kanter and Kanter is a better scorer. He was competing against himself and the system. Minutes wise he was competing with Booker. If he had bought into the system he could have eaten all of Bookers minutes. Unfortunately he was too concerned with his own numbers and too stubborn to realize that if he passed the ball teams would stop double teaming him. His turnovers would come down his fg% would go up and he would still put up the same number of points. If he takes that me first attitude to OKC he is going to spend a lot of time on the pine.

The truth is Kanter was much more valuable to Utah than he will ever be to OKC. Kanter bit the hand that fed him.

Of course Rudy complemented him. Maybe more than anyone else can. I meant their competition for the starting center position. Not much of it maybe since Utah plays a lot better with Rudy in so many ways, but Rudy's mentality development also has some important milestones like getting sent to D League and trying to make his impact when he comes. Competition drove him to grow faster too.

Enes needs to grow a lot mentally. It includes BBIQ. He hasn't shown major progress, but only sparks of it in some games. It is better than nothing. He won't stay long and be passed at if he plays like that there too, a no brainer, but there is a good possibility that he can comprehend himself as a 3rd 4th opt to start with and learn how to play team ball.

The reason I think he cam be better there is he is an emotional guy and he always played for the team that drafted him at a most valuable #3 pick and had high expectations of him. This is always a matter of presurre for a guy like him who always thought his next move a lot and got left behind the game pace mentally. I just believe in his relaxed mode getting out of this drafted kid situation helping his game. Of course we need time to see if it will be that way. He is a good kid. I hope he does well.

 

[addictionary]

Kanter's starting tonight. Anyone that feels like checking him there the game's against Big Al @ 5:00 pm MT.

 

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Of course Rudy complemented him. Maybe more than anyone else can. I meant their competition for the starting center position. Not much of it maybe since Utah plays a lot better with Rudy in so many ways, but Rudy's mentality development also has some important milestones like getting sent to D League and trying to make his impact when he comes. Competition drove him to grow faster too.

Enes needs to grow a lot mentally. It includes BBIQ. He hasn't shown major progress, but only sparks of it in some games. It is better than nothing. He won't stay long and be passed at if he plays like that there too, a no brainer, but there is a good possibility that he can comprehend himself as a 3rd 4th opt to start with and learn how to play team ball.

The reason I think he cam be better there is he is an emotional guy and he always played for the team that drafted him at a most valuable #3 pick and had high expectations of him. This is always a matter of presurre for a guy like him who always thought his next move a lot and got left behind the game pace mentally. I just believe in his relaxed mode getting out of this drafted kid situation helping his game. Of course we need time to see if it will be that way. He is a good kid. I hope he does well.

I don't think he is a bad guy.

Kanter isn't a true center. He isn't going to start as center for any team that has one. He just doesn't have the physical tools to be a good starting center. He can play it in a pinch or off the bench but he's never going to be a great center. Kanter is a PF that can't play pick and roll D(doesn't play it particularly well offensively either). If he wants to start I think he has to address that so he can start as a 4. Favors plays the pick and roll so he started.

 

[The Blue Elephant]

I don't think he is a bad guy.

Kanter isn't a true center. He isn't going to start as center for any team that has one. He just doesn't have the physical tools to be a good starting center. He can play it in a pinch or off the bench but he's never going to be a great center. Kanter is a PF that can't play pick and roll D(doesn't play it particularly well offensively either). If he wants to start I think he has to address that so he can start as a 4. Favors plays the pick and roll so he started.

I disagree completely about physical tools and that he should work on being a PF over a center. Compare his wingspan/height to Jusuf Nurkic. Jusuf Nurkic is actually ranked higher in DRPM than Gobert and is ranked 6th in the NBA in rim protection on nyloncalculus (ranked higher than Omer Asik, Larry Sanders, Tim Duncan, and a bunch of others). Enes Kanter also measured much faster and able to jump much higher. However this is most likely due to Jusuf Nurkic weighing a good 20 lbs more than Kanter combine time. The only problem with Jusuf Nurkic is that he fouls at an insane rate.

The only thing that may prevent Kanter from ever playing good defense is BBIQ.

I think Kanter should gain weight and play brutal basketball. His FTA per 36 and rebounds went down almost every year. He needs to get back to that and become a brute under the rim. Not lose weight and take a bunch of 3's pretending to be a PF. Only mid range jumper he should work on is keeping his FT% > 70%.