Kemba or Tobias, who would you rather have?

Discussion in 'Utah Jazz' started by colton, May 13, 2019.

Kemba or Tobias, who do you take?

  1. Kemba

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  2. Tobias

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  1. Handlogten's Heros

    Handlogten's Heros Well-Known Member 2019 Award Winner

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    there was a stint in January when Gallo was out... Tobias averaged like 6 assists and put up some big scoring numbers. I think there is an efficient 22-23 ppg with 4-5 assist per game player in there. He's also been really durable. I just think we deserve this and so does he... let's make it happen.
     
  2. Odgerton13

    Odgerton13 Active Member

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    I would want Tobias. I think Kemba is a better player but I think that Harris fits are system better and I still have hope for Dante at the point.
     
  3. Douchebag K

    Douchebag K Well-Known Member

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    The fact he can handle and run screen/roll at a high level is a massive plus that for me tips it in favour of him
     
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  4. Douchebag K

    Douchebag K Well-Known Member

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    He’s going to be cheap for a reason
     
  5. prodigy

    prodigy Well-Known Member

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    Its easier seeing Tobias here so Ill say him. Kemba is the face of that franchise its hard seeing him leave it even if their results havent been great. MJ said he was 'hellbent' on resigining him.
     
  6. Handlogten's Heros

    Handlogten's Heros Well-Known Member 2019 Award Winner

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    I think they give him the full boat... he will take it... force a trade later if you need to... the will be the face of mediocrity.
     
  7. NAOS

    NAOS Well-Known Member

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    Tobias has a lot of skills, but let's make sure not to portray him as a passing savant. He's good at making the right play, but he doesn't have Ingles-style creativity or guts in the passing game. Just FYI.
     
  8. Douchebag K

    Douchebag K Well-Known Member

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    he does have a thoroughly decent points per PNR tho
     
  9. Pastramiking

    Pastramiking Well-Known Member

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    Kemba + Mitchell would be the second or Third best backcourt in the West
     
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  10. Sandman822

    Sandman822 Well-Known Member

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    I'd be very interested to know the correlation between Jazzfanz' opinion on Tobias/Kemba and Jazzfanz' opinion on whether Mitchell should be a full time PG or not.
     
  11. gregbroncs

    gregbroncs Well-Known Member

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    Should he be the full time PG? Probably not.
    Should he be the guy filling the PG spot on the floor? Yes.
    He doesn't need to be the PG on offense to man that spot. Ingles can be your offensive PG while Donovan defends the PG most of the time.
     
  12. Sandman822

    Sandman822 Well-Known Member

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    I'm not trying to argue for one point or the other here, I'm just curious to know if the crowd who want Donovan at full time PG are the same - or close to the same - crowd who would prefer Tobias over Kemba.
     
  13. Handlogten's Heros

    Handlogten's Heros Well-Known Member 2019 Award Winner

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    I think we need an additional ball handler... whether a pg or sg. I think Kemba's size scares me... Conley is a good defender so that doesn't both me as much with him.

    I think we can find a guard or wing that can handle and we'd be bigger on defense... getting playmaking and shooting at the 4 is awesome and more rare than with a guard... that was my general thought process.

    It's super close and I see both sides... coin flip imo.
     
  14. gregbroncs

    gregbroncs Well-Known Member

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    Probably, I'd rather have Tobias. And I think Donovan would be fine at PG. That said if Jrue holliday were available he'd probably be my preference over all of them. I'm not firmly in one camp or the other.
     
  15. prodigy

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    Jazz were #1 on BR's top places for Tobias. Does it mean anything no. But it was cool to see.
     
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  16. colton

    colton All Around Nice Guy Staff Member

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  17. Catchall

    Catchall Well-Known Member 2019 Prediction Contest Winner

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    I would go after Tobias and put a bigger guard next to Mitchell.
     
  18. colton

    colton All Around Nice Guy Staff Member

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    That's my feeling as well. I was torn on the question for a while (still am a bit) but eventually came down on the side of Tobias because I think a Kemba/Donovan backcourt might be too small.
     
  19. Catchall

    Catchall Well-Known Member 2019 Prediction Contest Winner

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    A George Hill-type guard with good length and the ability to play off the ball would be ideal. Exum wouldn't be terrible if he could stop breaking.
     
  20. SCS

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    Danny Chau of theringer seems to think the Jazz are set to move Donovan Mitchell to the point. I wonder how much inside info he has, if any. But if he's right it has to mean the Jazz are targeting a guy like Tobias.

    Gobert/Tobias/Ingles/Royce/Spida would be a pretty damn good starting lineup I think fwiw. The Gobert/Tobias pair inside is basically ideal. Ingles wouldn't have to carry as much of the offensive load as he has been with Tobias in the lineup. Royce could also take some of the defensive workload off of Joe. Saving his legs a little bit. Letting him go back to being a spot up shooter (and secondary ball handler helping Donovan). Donovan would benefit on both sides of the ball with this lineup. I think we'd see improvement. And I believe in Royce as a starter. He just needs to be more consistent.
     
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