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Kevin Pelton Thinks George Hill Will Get $20 Million in FA

Saint Cy of JFC said:
So just because he said in an interview he is open to an extension means he wants one? You dont consider the fact that his response is the correct/safe PR move? When a player says "Ill let my agent and the Jazz FO handle that" that is basically the player removing himself from any liability to the fan base.
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now you're ready to read into subtleties? Just a minute ago you were taking words at some literal/face value. It seems like you shift from one mode to the other as it suits you.
 
It is not wistful or homerish to listen to what George Hill has said and conclude that he's prepared to stay here; that he's the kind of guy who will sit at the negotiating table and leave something there for both sides.

It's also very safe to say he's a guy who has demonstrated that he's a man of his word, not some kind of artist at shell games and misdirections.
 
Yes, I think George Hill is open to staying here. I'm just smart enough to know that staying here isn't his #1 priority. If it was, an extension would already have been signed. He has some sort of monetary demand that has to be met.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
Yes, I think George Hill is open to staying here. I'm just smart enough to know that staying here isn't his #1 priority. If it was, an extension would already have been signed. He has some sort of monetary demand that has to be met.
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Are you so ****ing ludicrous and wrapped-up into your takes on things that you actually believe that I was saying "staying here is his #1 priority" and "he has no serious monetary demand"? Do people have to speak in your exact self-same version of the English language in order for you to stop simply waiting for your turn to speak rather than listen?
 
If Hill walks so does Hayward. I think we either have to sign both of them or we better trade both of them.
 
♪alt13 said:
If Hill walks so does Hayward. I think we either have to sign both of them or we better trade both of them.
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Hayward is smart. The only reason he walks is if he thinks the Jazz had the finances to accommodate a core with Hill in it, but they didn't and the team regressed as a result of the team being cheap. This, along with the Jazz not maxing him.
 
NAOS said:
It is not wistful or homerish to listen to what George Hill has said and conclude that he's prepared to stay here; that he's the kind of guy who will sit at the negotiating table and leave something there for both sides.

It's also very safe to say he's a guy who has demonstrated that he's a man of his word, not some kind of artist at shell games and misdirections.
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The fact of the matter is that we don't know these people. People typed this exact same **** that you're currently typing out before Hayward hit free agency and signed that contract with Charlotte. And guess what-- Hayward has continued to say the same **** about Utah after signing with Utah (no different from George) and he will still have a prominent chance to leave this team if a better opportunity and payment presents itself. Stop acting like you know these dudes.
 
dalamon said:
The fact of the matter is that we don't know these people. People typed this exact same **** that you're currently typing out before Hayward hit free agency and signed that contract with Charlotte. And guess what-- Hayward has continued to say the same **** about Utah after signing with Utah (no different from George) and he will still have a prominent chance to leave this team if a better opportunity and payment presents itself. Stop acting like you know these dudes.
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The comparison (I didn't exactly make) with West was fatuous, but your comparison with Hayward isn't?

My opinions about Hill are being generated by what Hill and the FO are saying. If you want to keep doing what you're doing, that's fine.
 
dalamon said:
Hayward is smart. The only reason he walks is if he thinks the Jazz had the finances to accommodate a core with Hill in it, but they didn't and the team regressed as a result of the team being cheap. This, along with the Jazz not maxing him.
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SO... you agree that if Hill walks then Hayward walks?
 
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