His form is fine and we saw him shoot a good percentage in summer league. Its the passing that was in question - the shooting will improve dramatically as he settles into his other, more important, jobs.
Keyonte George Hype & Appreciation Thread
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I really struggle with this. I really hope he’s a decent shooter but looking good can only count for so much when there isn’t much following that’s concrete. When we drafted him, I was surprised when I looked at his shooting percentages and not hearing anyone reflect that as a concern. I believe maybe it was dismissed because he was taking difficult shots. Anyway, the sub-40 percentage made me nervous. He shot well in three games in Vegas (52.3% and 44.4% from three) but shot poorly in the three games in Salt Lake (37.8% and 29.4% from three). It’s early in the season and he’s a rookie but at some point we have to admit that we have no track record to reference other than it looking good.
I hope the shots drop but right now I’m cautious on how much weight I give to the motion.
@Tremendous Upside and @jom2003 if you had to make a call, would you say Keyonte George is going to be a good 3PT shooter in the NBA or not?
You are here painting a negative picture, and I want to see what you truely believe. Its easy to hide behind stats and say "this is what it currently is" (a child can do this), but make a proper analysis and give me your best arguments.
You are here painting a negative picture, and I want to see what you truely believe. Its easy to hide behind stats and say "this is what it currently is" (a child can do this), but make a proper analysis and give me your best arguments.
Tremendous Upside
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Forget "good" for now – Keyonte's next goal is to become an average shooter. If he's going to play the point, he has to be someone who can't be ignored on the perimeter and who'll be good enough of a finisher that he'll collapse the defense when he drives into the paint. That's just a prerequisite for doing his main job.
However... we simply don't have that many examples of guys who couldn't shoot in college but became dependable in the NBA. Everything is harder in the League. As I said, I'm not giving up on the kid... that would be stupid. But some things are more probable than others.
I can't see any reason to expect that he'll become a GOOD shooter. That may happen, but it's unlikely.
Holy **** some of y'all try to dumb.
Keyonte is already a good shooter. The dude is shooting 38% on off the dribble 3s. His issue is he's missing catch and shoot attempts. That won't continue
Keyonte is already a good shooter. The dude is shooting 38% on off the dribble 3s. His issue is he's missing catch and shoot attempts. That won't continue
FrenchJazzFa
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Mike shoot 43% amd 33% during his rookie year. And then he keep improving all his career. It's all about Basket IQ and for a rookie, i find Keyonte pretty smart already. I'm not worry about his shooting he will improve and become a solid PG in the future.
Oh there are plenty of good examples, even among star level players. These guys come to mind as classic examples:
Kawhi shot 25% from 3 and 74.4% from FT line in college. Been a tad bit better in NBA.
Jason Kidd shot like crap in college and as a rookie (including under 70% from FT)
KAT didnt even take 3s in college (was a great FT shooter though)
And just randomly browsing familiar names I see that Mike Conley (shot 30% from 3 and 69% from FT in college) and Jordan Clarkson (averaged 32% from 3 in 4 years of college)
You sure? I mean, analyze his form, mechanics, how he sets his feet, balance, release quickness, average margin of error on misses, shot quality and decission making. You might find plenty of reasons for optimism.
I see you just decided to stick to stats. I kinda expected more from you, as you often analyze stuff beyond the box score.
Looking at the tape its pretty obvious he is going to be really good. I wanted to challenge the stat starers to see if they had something more than the numbers.
I think I'll do a breakdown on the margin of error the way I did with Wemby. I'm pretty sure KG just a few airballs all year and a lot of in-and-outs. It feels like he is just adapting to NBA 3P range and hasnt gotten comfortable or found his spots yet. It was just 1.5 years ago he was still shooting 20ft 3 pointers from HS line.
Tremendous Upside
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Kawhi and Kidd are the usual suspects that always come up when this issue is discussed. Chip Engelland reworked Kawhi's shot and Bob Thate fixed Kidd's. Look it up. It's not like they just magically improved with time.
KAT doesn't count, as you said he never had a problem shooting the ball. That just wasn't his role in college.
Clarkson is a career 34% shooter from the perimeter! That's worse than league average. In other words, the guy definitely didn't become a good shooter in the NBA. In fact it's been years since he last broke the 35% barrier for a full season. When you look at his shot volume, Clarkson is one of the least efficient 3pt shooters in the league. Not something Key should be emulating.
Mike Conley played one year of college (very small sample) and barely shot from the perimeter his rookie year (unlike Keyonte). From his 2nd year on, he was a pretty good shooter.
I dunno. The only thing that really matters is putting the ball in the basket. Wemby's shot looks very good, and he can't hit anything.
I hope the Jazz coaches recognize that Keyonte may need some outside help with his shot. It may be the difference between him becoming and All Star and staying a role player.
Remember how we questioned Donovan's shooting his rookie year and after? He went from 34% 3 pt his rookie year to 36, 36, 38, 35, 38, and this season is back to 34. His FG% has hovered at around 44 his whole career with last year at 48 but this year back down to 44. FT% was 80 for two seasons then around 85-86 and this year has jumped to 90%.
Keyonte is 34.7% FG, 31.1% 3PT, 78% FT
Donovan was a great finisher from the start while Keyonte misses a lot of shots off the glass but seems to be pretty good with the floater.
Keyonte is 34.7% FG, 31.1% 3PT, 78% FT
Donovan was a great finisher from the start while Keyonte misses a lot of shots off the glass but seems to be pretty good with the floater.
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