Kirilenko for Varejao and Mo

[franklin]

Wow, I hope you were really high when you wrote this. If you weren't it certainly doesn't say much for your intelligence. So the jazz should now trade ak (an expiring large contract we've been clinging on to for years now, to one day dump for an allstar) for a long term contract on a guy that was only decent (at best) because he had a guy named Lebron to make him better. And also aquire williams ( a talented point guard) to rot on the bench because we would much rather give our minutes TO THE BEST POINT GUARD IN THE LEAGUE. Not to mention we would be landed in a strapped budget it would take years to get out of it. Or we keep ak and in one year were able to sign an allstar type player for the same money. Ya your right make the deal, where do we sign?? Just because kevin o conner may be a vegtable doesn't mean the fans have to start taking his tarded mentality.

This is quite possibly the dumbest **** I've ever read on Jazzfanz. Normally I wouldn't say anything, but your douchebaggery invites. I don't know where to start and which part of what you said is the dumbest, as it's a collection of some of the most moronic notions that all of us could put together, combined. Were you serious, cause anything this dumb should have been a joke.

Yeah, AV is nothing without LeBron. His hustle never showed when LeBron was out of the picture. The guy should be a junior high coach by now. Yeah.
Yeah, AK's contract will expire and the Jazz will automatically get to spend all that $17 million. Yeah, sure. Try a few million princess.
Yeah, Mo would rot on the bench. We've never heard of players playing multiple positions, just like Mo did when he was here before. Yeah.

Maybe you could enlighten yourself by reading up a bit on the CBA rules, and expand your mind to the notion that the Jazz don't have many options. If they want to get better then they have to make a move like this. Just about everyone on here understands this, except apparently you, the "tarded mentality".

Or, quite simply, STFU STUPID! Actually, next time don't be such a dick about things. I'm sure you really are not.

 

[jimmyjazz]

Talent-wise, it's a no-brainer for the Jazz. Financially, it's a franchise-breaker for the Jazz. The Jazz absolutely cannot carry the financial weight with a CBA likely to drastically come down, and $39 million tied up in three players through 2012.

Doesn't have to be that way financially. Well, nothing can be done about Okur.

But if the Cavs were willing to deal Mo with Varejao, the Jazz can just keep Varejao and send Mo to another team. For example, Jordan supposedly tried to get Calderon with Dampier's nonguaranteed contract. They could get Mo instead. That would just leave the Jazz with Varejao's 7M this year while getting rid of AK's 17M.

But then the Cavs can just do that Mo-for-Dampier straight up with Charlotte. They then insist that the team that wants Varejao should instead get Jamison (2 years, 13+15) but who might still be tradable for an expiring later.

 

[Jazz4ever]

Terrible idea, Varejo is not close to being a center and is the defenition of hustle roleplayer. He will be grotesquely overpaid for the next 4 years. Mo would not see any minutes here unless the Jazz were to play small ball, which never works. Worse trade idea of the summer.

 

[NUMBERICA]

Another thing to consider for the Cavs is that if they're so desperate to dump salary, there are a number of teams with massive TPE's (large enough to absorb any player on their roster) and Erick Dampier. AK is at most 3rd on the list of ways the Cavs could dump salary, and that says nothing of what would likely be a net loss of abilities for the Cavs. The only way the Cavs consider doing this is if they really want AK for some reason.

All signs point to the Jazz hanging onto AK and trying to re-up him at a discount rate. Whether they actually get a discount rate is the only thing that's the question in my mind.

 

[jimmyjazz]

Another thing to consider for the Cavs is that if they're so desperate to dump salary, there are a number of teams with massive TPE's (large enough to absorb any player on their roster) and Erick Dampier. AK is at most 3rd on the list of ways the Cavs could dump salary, and that says nothing of what would likely be a net loss of abilities for the Cavs. The only way the Cavs consider doing this is if they really want AK for some reason.

You check out those teams with massive TPEs (Suns, Raps, who else?), the Dampier chip (Charlotte) and cap space (NY) and the Jazz chances look good actually.

The Suns already got role-players in Warrick and Frye and Barbosa. Instead of getting another role player, they're more likely to keep their Amare TPE intact for bigger fish up through the trade deadline if needed. Their Richardson expiring isn't big enough for Varejao plus the salary the Cavs would also want to dump.

The Raps are probably in post-Bosh minirebuild mode and jealously guarding their cap space for next offseason for a complement to Bargnani.

Jordan's Bobcats could possibly try to get Mo. That's one. And why it could be Varejao+Jamison instead, with the hope Jamison could be tradable for an expiring later.

NY's mid/long-term cap space is sacred for their own Big Three dream.

So there's not really a whole pack of teams that could get in the way. The Jazz's chances look quite good if they want to do this.

 

[Harambe]

i would be tempted.. but i wouldnt do it. people undervalue cj and i hate it.

My statement stands.

 

[cowhide]

I wouldn't make this deal simply because of Mo and AV's contract length. I would rather the Jazz let AK expire. I certainly hope the Jazz are not dumb enough to pay AK another big contract. He is a a $6 million a year guy. He certainly isn't going to get any better and he has been overpaid for years. I 'd rather the Jazz let AK's deal expire or trade it for a talented expiring contract (Richardson or Dampier).

 

[mfree]

I actually agree that the best move is to re-sign AK47 at a significantly reduced rate. He is a good player for a smaller salary, but even if they do want to get rid of him, with a more reasonable contract, he becomes tradeable, and they would get some value beyond just the luxury tax savings.

 

[jimmyjazz]

AK may be a "good" player but will keeping and then re-signing him bring the Jazz closer to matching up vs LA? The Jazz are still a long defensive big man away from competing better against the Lakers.

AK is replaceable and if trading him is what brings in a 6-11 defensive big, a young veteran at that in this case, then the Jazz should go for it. That's a higher priority in the next couple of years than just hoping to re-sign AK.

 

[infection]

But Andrei might get a 5x5 next year.