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Kyrie to Utah?

I fully respect Kyrie's decision. I think it takes some cohones to leave the most skilled basketball player of all time (IMO, I didn't say best). But this team does not cater to him. Oldest team in the league. No assets, except Kyrie. Klove is good but value is down. Lebron has a no trade clause. Pick situation is ****. And JR and Tristan rival Porter and Hardaway Jr contracts.... I don't think he wants to be the "focal point". Players don't say that if SA I on their list. I just don't think he wants to be a pawn in LeBron's scheme and left with nothing.

It's always going to be hard for the Jazz to be a real contender in this market. But I think I'd give up anyone not named Gobert and Mitchell (homer alert) for him. Dude puts asses in seats. I'd feel great about my season ticket $

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Can Rubio be traded? Also, what picks are we working with?

Is this why we signed all of this depth?

I'd give up a lot for Uncle Drew. We'd probably have to take back TT's big contract though.
 
I see Kyrie going to Knicks and Rose signing with Cavs. However, he would have been a great fit for Jazz before we got Rubio. We can cover his defensive weaknesses and he would immediately pull Jazz offense 3 levels up.

"I would honestly give up Hood and a few picks. Man what a great backduo would Mitchell and Kyrie be."
 
Catchall said:
CLE out: Kyrie, Shumpert
CLE in: Carmelo, Bledsoe

NY out: Carmelo, Ntilikina, future 1st
NY in: Kyrie

PHX out: Bledsoe
PHX in: Ntilikina, future first


If the deal looks like this, I think Cleveland would still be the favorite in the EC.
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The Knicks aren't doing that deal if they have to give up a 1st but if you take it out of the equation, everyone might. The Cavs def would or should and I think the Knicks def would. The Suns would be the biggest question but dumping Bledsoe for the young Frankie would mean a full youth movement and "tank" which might be the best way to go.
 
infection said:
I'll give you a pass on this because I figure it's one of those two times you've been wrong.
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It is newsworthy when NCJ gets it right. Stopped clocks are right twice a day. Every forum needs a court jester, think of the fun we'd be missing if he left with Deron, as he said he would.
 
Wes Mantooth said:
The Knicks aren't doing that deal if they have to give up a 1st but if you take it out of the equation, everyone might. The Cavs def would or should and I think the Knicks def would. The Suns would be the biggest question but dumping Bledsoe for the young Frankie would mean a full youth movement and "tank" which might be the best way to go.
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Agree. Irving is still young enough that he and Porzingis would be great players to build around. Certainly a better deal than what may have been on the table with Houston.

The Irving to Utah talk was probably just that and died before July 1st when DL traded for Rubio, IMO, there are now TWO untouchables on the roster: Gobert and Mitchell. The way DL talks about Donovan ...there's no way he gets moved. And I wouldn't be surprised if Spida ends up at the 1 when Rubio's contract ends. He's got a lot to work on, but Mitchell at PG would be a huge advantage for Utah, allowing a bigger guard to be at the 2. Maybe Dante, maybe Hood. If Rodney stays, I just don't see him at the 3 defensively.
 
Obviously, Kyrie isn't getting traded to Utah. But hypothetically, if that were to happen, considering that he is the very definition of a shoot first PG, can Utah play Kyrie off ball next to Rubio? Yes, it's a step backwards defensively but 3 steps forward offensively and in this new era of "positionless basketball", maybe it works?
 
jazzman12 said:
Obviously, Kyrie isn't getting traded to Utah. But hypothetically, if that were to happen, considering that he is the very definition of a shoot first PG, can Utah play Kyrie off ball next to Rubio? Yes, it's a step backwards defensively but 3 steps forward offensively and in this new era of "positionless basketball", maybe it works?
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I think that would just cause kyrie to pout and be a problem
 
If we traded a lot of pieces for Irving we would become the modern day Allen Iverson 76'ers.

I dont want that.
 
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