Lakers-Jazz Trade

[Elizah Huge]

Really interested to know what all offers the Lakers have in front of them. Utah/Indy are the only real reported teams iirc.

I wonder if the Spurs would put Keldon Johnson/Poetl in for both unprotected picks. According to fanspo McDermott/Johnson/Poetl works for Russ. Doesn't seem like it should tho.

Spurs have 22.8M worth of cap space. They technically only have to send out around 24.3M worth of salary.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

SA still has cap space so they could be a wildcard here. It would likely be Poeltl, Richardson, and maybe one other filler salary. They should retain Keldon and McDermott's deal wouldn't fit real well with Lakers wanting space. I think that would be a 1 pick type of offer.

The SA Indy types have no real reason not to be done if they were on the table. I really think we execute something with the Lakers for at least one of the picks.

Idk, Johnson should be in there. Two late Lakers unprotecteds should get you an all-star caliber or potential all star caliber player back imo.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Idk, Johnson should be in there. Two late Lakers unprotecteds should get you an all-star caliber or potential all star caliber player back imo.

I doubt SA would give up Johnson.

 

[Elizah Huge]

Idk, Johnson should be in there. Two late Lakers unprotecteds should get you an all-star caliber or potential all star caliber player back imo.

They could theoretically duck the tax all together with a Spurs deal. Save 16M worth of salary and a 33M luxury tax payment. That alone is worth a lot. Like HH said if that deal was on the table there is no reason it shouldn’t be done already.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

I doubt SA would give up Johnson.

Agreed, but the two picks might be appealing to them. They already showed a willingness to do a similar deal with Dejounte.

I know the whole Dejounte thing was probably predicated on them knowing he didn't really like being there, and they have like 5 years left after the Johnson extension so maybe they arent that excited to trade him, but that would be a far better package than what Utah or Indy could offer.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

They could theoretically duck the tax all together with a Spurs deal. Save 16M worth of salary and a 33M luxury tax payment. That alone is worth a lot. Like HH said if that deal was on the table there is no reason it shouldn’t be done already.

I mean, it's not like KJ is going anywhere else. Lakers have time to make a decision .

They might prefer to do a uTah trade if they can only give up one pick

 

[Elizah Huge]

The Lakers could technically trade the lesser of the two Pelicans/Lakers 2023 1sts since the Pelicans own a pick swap. They could also trade their 2024 1st or 2025 1st with specific language on it since the Pelicans can choose to convey it in 2024 or defer it to 2025.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

I mean, it's not like KJ is going anywhere else. Lakers have time to make a decision .

They might prefer to do a uTah trade if they can only give up one pick

Pop also loves Keldon... so I doubt they move him... I get that he is a much better asset but I am not sure Spurs want to go down to absolutely nothing for Pop's last ride... but its a possibility.

I think Keldon is a better asset to use in next year's draft after he has pumped his numbers up this year. I think Bogey is a worse asset for the Lakers for sure... but I think he's a better player for them next year.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

The Lakers could technically trade the lesser of the two Pelicans/Lakers 2023 1sts since the Pelicans own a pick swap. They could also trade their 2024 1st or 2025 1st with specific language on it since the Pelicans can choose to convey it in 2024 or defer it to 2025.

I think it really has to be 2027 because of the weird stuff they have going on. I would also sneak in a 23 pick swap instead of a second round pick or two. Just make it we get the worse of the NOP or LA pick for the Philly or Minny pick (which ever is higher). Means we'd move from like 25 to like 18 or 19... maybe higher if both LA and NO suck.

I'd take one pick if it is unprotected. If they want Vando I need it to be two... but might allow for some light protections.

I also think Indiana is kind of dumb for not doing Turner/Hield for Westbrook and 1 pick.

 

[SoberasHotRod]

I think it really has to be 2027 because of the weird stuff they have going on. I would also sneak in a 23 pick swap instead of a second round pick or two. Just make it we get the worse of the NOP or LA pick for the Philly or Minny pick (which ever is higher). Means we'd move from like 25 to like 18 or 19... maybe higher if both LA and NO suck.

I'd take one pick if it is unprotected. If they want Vando I need it to be two... but might allow for some light protections.

I also think Indiana is kind of dumb for not doing Turner/Hield for Westbrook and 1 pick.

I'm pretty close to this. I think we should get one unprotected pick for Bogey plus taking on Westbrook's contract, and then the pick swaps, 2nds, additional firsts depend on what else they get.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

I also think Indiana is kind of dumb for not doing Turner/Hield for Westbrook and 1 pick.

That's probably the hold up. Indy is saying two, LA is saying no we will just go with Utah. LA does not actually want to go with Utah

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

That's probably the hold up. Indy is saying two, LA is saying no we will just go with Utah. LA does not actually want to go with Utah

If it goes into next week I can get with this theory and will abandon down payment theory. If it happens this week I think its clear what teams were waiting for.

Indy has had Turner in rumors forever... they have to know how the league views him. Maybe they just want to keep him. They are weird/old school and I think it holds em back a bit.