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Stoked said:
I think it is a big stretch to say "sheltered to an extent" = amish.
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I probably should have stated that, to me, it kinda came off that way. Whether or not that was your intent is not mine to judge, but I only respond as I see fit. Perhaps the mistake is mine.

I was the first to point out that there opinion was no less valid then others.
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You're absolutely correct, and I should have acknowledged that. My bad.
 
I believe there are people out there who are just at high risk for developing addictions. It can be to anything, and when they are forced to stop or try to quit, they are going to suffer mental/physical withdrawals. People can have this to shopping, internet use, cellphone use, gambling, drug use, etc. Pretty much anything you can think of that we use on a daily basis, people can develop severe addiction to them because they have a predisposed weakness to addiction.

I don't believe it is anything in marijuana that triggers these withdrawal symptoms like there is in heroin and meth. It is just a self imposed mental addiction that manifest itself physically if the person has a weak will. Should rules be made to protect a small minority when the majority can handle it? I don't think so.
 
Bronco70 said:
I probably should have stated that, to me, it kinda came off that way. Whether or not that was your intent is not mine to judge, but I only respond as I see fit. Perhaps the mistake is mine.



You're absolutely correct, and I should have acknowledged that. My bad.
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if that is how I came off it was unintended. I think there is a level of naivete amoung the Utah LDS community on certain subjects. It maybe by choice but it is still there. But you are correct in that it in now way invalidates their opinion.

All groups have subjects about which they are naive/ignorant.
 
Cyrone Torbin said:
Silly of me to think the guy who was adamantly supporting the fact that there are withdrawal symptoms to actually be able to discuss it.
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I had already given you the link to the Wikipedia page that was my sole source for knowledge on the subject.
 
Nate505 said:
Yes, the brain is physically part of one's body.

That being said, for whatever reason physical addiction has been defined as a withdrawals that affect the central nervous system. The NIDA guy can try to say it's arbitrary, but it's really pretty simple. There's a reason a severe alcoholic can die if they don't drink and a server stoner won't die if he doesn't get stoned. The DTs are a classic physical affect of addiction.

As for psychological addiction, nearly everything is. I spend an hour or so a day at this place for some reason.
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So some people have tried to "define" what a physical addiction is, a rose by any other name is still the same. You cant change words and now magically the affect something has on you is different. You could not have a psychological addiction to something without a tie to something physical.

I do agree that there are many many things out there that people can and do get addicted to. I have said it before, I am addicted to this place, or I would have stopped showing up here long ago. I'm surely not here for the positive things people say to me and each other... well, maybe a tiny bit.
 
Man this thread is tempting as much as MarryJane is. How about starting a party to get high, and then discuss later with unlimited imagination? Oh wait, is it already happening?
 
Stoked said:
Isn't it interesting the different experiences/perspectives people get by living life.

I have lived in northern and southern Utah, Denver, Seattle, Memphis...and my experience has been the opposite.

Nothing wrong with LDS (Utah LDS) perspective. It is just different.
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Well, I guess what I'm saying is that while LDS folks in rural Utah might be sheltered from the drug culture I've also found that liberals in San Diego are sheltered from many of the realities of life that rural folks are very familiar with. So while we can say LDS folks are sheltered I don't think it's any less appropriate to say that city kids in L.A. are sheltered in their own way as well.
 
Gameface said:
Well, I guess what I'm saying is that while LDS folks in rural Utah might be sheltered from the drug culture I've also found that liberals in San Diego are sheltered from many of the realities of life that rural folks are very familiar with. So while we can say LDS folks are sheltered I don't think it's any less appropriate to say that city kids in L.A. are sheltered in their own way as well.
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Well if the topic turns to how to raise Cattle and Sheep you can use that.
 
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