Lest we forget.....

[Handlogten's Heros]

Bogey could have gotten that money from another team if not the Jazz. Again, look what Middleton and Tobias signed for. Every team saw Bogey as a 2nd-tier free agent.

On paper, Mitchell, Gobert and Conley look like 3 All Stars in a Western Conference where Golden State's dynasty is ending and Houston is in decline. Before the Kawhi fiasco, people were projecting the Jazz as a top 1 or 2 seed in the west.

Which other team offered him more money? Did Indiana offer him the same amount? Milwaukee and Philly had to overpay to retain their guys because they can't replace them if they walked... they don't have space... both of those guys were better and younger than Bojan.

So were we competing with Sacramento or NY because I think those are the only teams that had space at that point. He didn't have a table full of similar offers... if he had an offer that gave him 5-10M more over the life of the deal then he stays in Indiana or goes to NY.

We absolutely could have signed Bojan without Mike... this wasn't Kyrie/KD or Kawhi/PG type package. Did it give us some momentum? sure.

Indiana split $30M between Brogdon and Lamb... they already had Warren in a draft night trade. If they could get Ricky for 12-13M maybe they were going to offer Bojan 17M. We offered him the most money... that is the #1 reason he's here.

 

[sahlensguy]

Listen, we’re not getting Bogey unless Conley is here. So it sucks we have Mike but if we didn’t, we very likely wouldn’t have Bogey.

What part of Mike's game was irresistible for Bogey to follow him here?

 

[outerspacefan]

Conley is not the problem. He obviously has not forgotten how to play ball. Now, if you trade for him, you don't do it to take the basketballl out off his hands, because he's a point guard that's made a career with the ball in his hands. You just do not try to make him a side guard. It's a kind of dumb thing to do. You put him there, let him handle and run things and let him figure it out how to run an offense with Gobert around... which is not an easy task.

Like how you start off with saying conley's not the problem then spend the next whole paragraph explaining why he is the problem and what his problem is

Nope. But I've got no problem with anyone reading it in any way they want!
What I say is that if you use your assets to bring Mike in, then throw Mike out there and let him be just Mike. Stop trying to make Donovan a point guard or Mike an off guard. Accept that any PG will need a lot of time to be Rudy-compliant. Jazz made choices, now is time for FO to live with them and for Quin to figure it out. If it works, fantastic. If it does not work then you probably will have to accept that some of your pillars might be not strong enough (which I think is the case) and act in consequence next summer.

 

[Jingled]

Tobias isn't worth his contract. What the Jazz need is a Draymond Green / Paul Millsap forward. We need defense, rebounding, toughness and ball movement.

This is exactly right. We were so bad on offense for so long but that isn't the case anymore. We now have plenty of scoring and shooting. What we need is a big wing defender that doesn't care about his offensive stats or how many shots he gets and will rebound and provide intangibles like toughness and hustle.

 

[LogGrad98]

Which other team offered him more money? Did Indiana offer him the same amount? Milwaukee and Philly had to overpay to retain their guys because they can't replace them if they walked... they don't have space... both of those guys were better and younger than Bojan.

So were we competing with Sacramento or NY because I think those are the only teams that had space at that point. He didn't have a table full of similar offers... if he had an offer that gave him 5-10M more over the life of the deal then he stays in Indiana or goes to NY.

We absolutely could have signed Bojan without Mike... this wasn't Kyrie/KD or Kawhi/PG type package. Did it give us some momentum? sure.

Indiana split $30M between Brogdon and Lamb... they already had Warren in a draft night trade. If they could get Ricky for 12-13M maybe they were going to offer Bojan 17M. We offered him the most money... that is the #1 reason he's here.

This guy gets it