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Locked On Jazz 10/16/17 Hood RFA Notes

Locke was one of the first people to point out us not locking up Hayward before his RFA, and that it may played a role in him deciding to leave. Seems like he's attempting to justify the Jazz basically doing the same thing with Rodney. He's just trying to spin it
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
It's far from irrelevant. We don't know what will happen between now and then. The Jazz could do trades that open up cap-room and having Hood at his cap hold could be valuable.
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You don't not extend Hood now because you might hypothetically maybe make a trade that in addition to everything else will actually give you no long-term salaries back. It made much more sense for the Jazz to wait out on Gobert's contract and they didn't! They didn't because they knew Gobert is worth it. It makes a lot less sense to wait for Hood to have a career year right now. They didn't sign a contract because they were not willing to give him the money his agent required. That's the reason. Has nothing/very little to do with our 2018 free agency.
 
Witty Username said:
Locke was one of the first people to point out us not locking up Hayward before his RFA, and that it may played a role in him deciding to leave. Seems like he's attempting to justify the Jazz basically doing the same thing with Rodney. He's just trying to spin it
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Different scenarios bud. The Jazz haggled over a million dollars per year. The Hood difference could be much larger.
 
stitches said:
You don't not extend Hood now because you might hypothetically maybe make a trade that in addition to everything else will actually give you no long-term salaries back. It made much more sense for the Jazz to wait out on Gobert's contract and they didn't! They didn't because they knew Gobert is worth it. It makes a lot less sense to wait for Hood to have a career year right now. They didn't sign a contract because they were not willing to give him the money his agent required. That's the reason. Has nothing/very little to do with our 2018 free agency.
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It's a reason why you don't. To act like it's not factor is a lie.

And Gobert gave them a slight discount to extend him. That's why they did it. Because he was a guaranteed max the following year so going ahead and doing it when they did saved them money.
 
With his cap hold less than what you would pay him you wait, unless you get a discount, especially with his injury history and the FA market this year. Saying cap space is irrelevant is stupid.
 
elan_prodigy said:
With his cap hold less than what you would pay him you wait, unless you get a discount, especially with his injury history and the FA market this year. Saying cap space is irrelevant is stupid.
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It IS irrelevant unless you clear half the roster. You have to waive all non-guaranteed contracts Sefolosha, Udoh, Jerebko, O'Neale, have to renounce JJ, Favors, Neto and Exum to get to a 25% max. You cannot even get to a 30% max money. To a huge extent it is irrelevant. Who is the player in FA that you are doing this for?

Sure... there is a shot you it might not be irrelevant but the chance is minuscule. I wouldn't even put it at 1%. Definitely not worth putting off the Hood extension if you think extending him for what he wants makes sense.
 
elan_prodigy said:
With his cap hold less than what you would pay him you wait, unless you get a discount, especially with his injury history and the FA market this year. Saying cap space is irrelevant is stupid.
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With our current situation though and the amount of things that will have to happen, that are very unlikely, for that situation to change it is also tough to buy into the fact that this is the main reason... This is like reason number 5-6 with the injury history being 1, inconsistency being 2... when the report came out yesterday Tony Jones basically said they want to see him stay healthy.

Preserving $10-12M in cap space when you are almost guaranteed to be over the cap is kind of dumb. It is an ancillary reason to wait, but unless you thing we are going to trade Burks, Exum, and waive half the roster either through cap holds or player options then there will not be space. We could move Ricky or Joe too, but that is unlikely as well. The series of events that has to take place where we have more than 8M in space (the mid level exception) is just not really something anyone should be planning around.

Because most don't understand the NBA salary cap it sounds really good (I'm fine with that too if it means Hood's feelings aren't hurt)... but you kick the tires and its not a big factor imo.
 
stitches said:
It IS irrelevant unless you clear half the roster. You have to waive all non-guaranteed contracts Sefolosha, Udoh, Jerebko, O'Neale, have to renounce JJ, Favors, Neto and Exum to get to a 25% max. You cannot even get to a 30% max money. To a huge extent it is irrelevant. Who is the player in FA that you are doing this for?

Sure... there is a shot you it might not be irrelevant but the chance is minuscule. I wouldn't even put it at 1%. Definitely not worth putting off the Hood extension if you think extending him for what he wants makes sense.
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Next tell us how Rubio has no shot in Quin's offense
 
stitches said:
It IS irrelevant unless you clear half the roster. You have to waive all non-guaranteed contracts Sefolosha, Udoh, Jerebko, O'Neale, have to renounce JJ, Favors, Neto and Exum to get to a 25% max. You cannot even get to a 30% max money. To a huge extent it is irrelevant. Who is the player in FA that you are doing this for?

Sure... there is a shot you it might not be irrelevant but the chance is minuscule. I wouldn't even put it at 1%. Definitely not worth putting off the Hood extension if you think extending him for what he wants makes sense.
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I just imagine Rodney is at 18M per season and DL is at 17.5 and they go "nah we need to keep our cap sheet clean in... we pass".

This is likely Hood wanting $20M per and the Jazz wondering if he can stay on the court to justify it. If we roll the dice and he can't stay healthy he comes at a discount. If he plays really well how much more is he getting than $20 per? Who has the space and who will offer it?
 
stitches said:
It IS irrelevant unless you clear half the roster. You have to waive all non-guaranteed contracts Sefolosha, Udoh, Jerebko, O'Neale, have to renounce JJ, Favors, Neto and Exum to get to a 25% max. You cannot even get to a 30% max money. To a huge extent it is irrelevant. Who is the player in FA that you are doing this for?

Sure... there is a shot you it might not be irrelevant but the chance is minuscule. I wouldn't even put it at 1%. Definitely not worth putting off the Hood extension if you think extending him for what he wants makes sense.
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Im talking about the FA market for Hood, there isnt much money out there this year.
 
stitches said:
It IS irrelevant unless you clear half the roster. You have to waive all non-guaranteed contracts Sefolosha, Udoh, Jerebko, O'Neale, have to renounce JJ, Favors, Neto and Exum to get to a 25% max. You cannot even get to a 30% max money. To a huge extent it is irrelevant. Who is the player in FA that you are doing this for?

Sure... there is a shot you it might not be irrelevant but the chance is minuscule. I wouldn't even put it at 1%. Definitely not worth putting off the Hood extension if you think extending him for what he wants makes sense.
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I didn't even figure roster spot cap holds... are we even able to get to 25% without trading Rubio or Ingles?
 
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