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AlaskanAssassin said:
David Stern is claiming that if the union does opt for decertification, that all current NBA contracts will become null and void. Does anyone with a legal background have any further information on this? My guess is that it's just another one of David's scare tactics, but what do I know.
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...that would be FANTASTIC! Bring ALL those fat cats down off that hill! With no contracts and a hard salary cap...even clowns like Kobe would be making way less money than they are now! If the players have even half a brain they'd better take this last offer.....or there lives will never be the same!

"David Stern said Friday that he understands that the players may want to use decertification of the union to strengthen their bargaining position. But he reiterated that the owners have moved as far as they are willing to go, and that decertification carries severe consequences.

"If the union is not in existence, neither are $4 billion worth of guaranteed contracts that were entered into on the condition that there is a union," Stern said in a television interview on ESPN.

Stern issued a warning to the agents who are pushing the decertification movement.

"So if the agents insist upon playing with fire, my guess is that they would get themselves burned," Stern said.



Read more: https://basketball.realgm.com/wiret...Would_Void_All_Player_Contracts#ixzz1dWnsjjcv
 
A source tells Shaun Powell that if given the opportunity, the union's full membership of players would vote to approve the NBA's revised proposal.

"Source told me if full membership votes on the owner's deal, NBA would open for business by Wednesday," Powell writes.

"This the best deal the owners will extend, everyone understands that," said the source.

Powell cites a "silent majority" of rank-and-file players who want to get back on the court and are uninterested in the decertification process or further negotiations with the owners.
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Read more: https://basketball.realgm.com/wiret..._Approve_Owners_Latest_Proposal#ixzz1dWtZwTZX
 
Maybe I am wrong but holy ****. What more do we expect the players to give. They have already dropped from 57 to 50 %. What more should they do? Give on every systems issue? The Players really need a publicist. They should be screaming about how unfair the owners are in that they have already taken 7 % or over a billion dollars and now they want to squeeze the mid level players out?
 
GoJazz said:
Maybe I am wrong but holy ****. What more do we expect the players to give. They have already dropped from 57 to 50 %. What more should they do? Give on every systems issue?
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....what MOST NBA players should do is give back all that money they stoled from the previous CBA....sign this one lickidee split....be happy they're still drastically overpaid for what they actually do.....and then start scrapping off all those disgusting tattoo's.......with a broken beer bottle!
 
the players act like they are the first employees to ever be asked to take a paycut.no,they are not supposed to like it but you either take it or leave it and work somewhere else.they are the employees not the owners.
 
If the players don't put it to a vote, I'm gonna ****ing shoot someone! Stop pretending like you know what your membership wants and let them decide for themselves if they like the deal. My god...
 
InGameStrategy said:
Again, the players (that is, the superstars and their agents) are so hung up on this because it makes contracts--especially big-ticket contracts--easier to sign, facilitating highly-paid and overpaid players (or their agents) to get deals done, especially with those wealthy teams that tend to be in attractive cities. In other words, a loose LT makes some players get a larger percent of the 50 percent (50-50) in places that they want to play.

It is also a sign that this process is being driven by the superstars and their greedy but equally self-destroying agents, not the more numerous journeymen who could have approved this CBA offer by now if the league representatives had been explaining it to them logically. This union has an offer in front of them and can get a deal done, but if they drag their feet, then the owners might push not only break-even profitability (which this CBA approximates) but also a significantly positive return on their business (which an even more aggressive or draconian CBA--or a reconstructed post-decertification league--would more likely produce).
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It's pretty well documented that the tax, ie. the thinly veiled hard cap, affects the middle class. The superstars will all get their max contracts so they're not affected. And player movement has been pretty well contained by all the restrictions on MLE's. What the heavy taxes create is a system where every FA gets lowballed because teams won't go into the tax. That reduces the salaries of role players drastically. An MLE-ish guy under the last deal would have made 6 million per. Now he'll be fishing for 3-4.

I absolutely want a more punitive tax system. I don't care if the NBA's middle class gets hurt. But I think it's prudent for the owners to ease back the throttle on that. My guess is the players will issue some kind of ultimatum that they will present the deal for a vote if taxes are reduced. The owners should bend on this.
 
billyshelby said:
My guess is the players will issue some kind of ultimatum that they will present the deal for a vote if taxes are reduced. The owners should bend on this.
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....the players will issue an "ultimatum?" How can they possibly issue an ultimatum when they don't have a leg to stand on and have a losing hand??? Negotiations are closed. It's take it.....or sit out the whole season!
 
carolinajazz said:
....the players will issue an "ultimatum?" How can they possibly issue an ultimatum when they don't have a leg to stand on and have a losing hand??? Negotiations are closed. It's take it.....or sit out the whole season!
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Leverage switches to the players if the owners realize they have a homerun deal. They stand to profit considerably by the terms of it. It's incumbent on them to land this plane if the profits are there and they are. So play the game, give the players something, and still make lots of money.
 
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