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GVC said:
They're completely unwilling to discuss revenue sharing among owners to make this possible.
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Who's completely unwilling? ALL of the owners, or the rich ones who don't want to share? I'd be willing to bet that the majority of owners would jump on revenue sharing, but can't force LA and New York to do so.

I think I remember reading that the rich owners refuse to discuss it until there's a new CBA. If that's true, it kinda puts small market owners in a position where they have to look out for their best interests while they can.
 
Cyrone Torbin said:
Of course it is a sham/negotiating tactic. No one expected otherwise, but it is one that must be respected. If someone has a gun in their hand, even if you know that person probably doesn't have the balls to pull the trigger, you still have to take the threat seriously.
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Everyone knows it is a sham, but if they thought that they might actually have to argue the contrary in court, then they'd keep Fisher away from negotiations.
 
margodydek said:
Everyone knows it is a sham, but if they thought that they might actually have to argue the contrary in court, then they'd keep Fisher away from negotiations.
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When did Fisher rejoin? Has there been an article about it? Last one I read said he wasn't apart of it.
 
freakazoid said:
Who's completely unwilling? ALL of the owners, or the rich ones who don't want to share? I'd be willing to bet that the majority of owners would jump on revenue sharing, but can't force LA and New York to do so.

I think I remember reading that the rich owners refuse to discuss it until there's a new CBA. If that's true, it kinda puts small market owners in a position where they have to look out for their best interests while they can.
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If the majority of owners want it, if it weren't for the leverage the owners have as a cartel, revenue sharing would be on the table. Because the NBA represents the only venue for professional basketball in America, and because the owners are far more insulated than the players, they can continue to play their game of chicken and demand that the players cave into all their demands. It makes perfect sense why the players would be threatening to decertify. Hopefully the owners realize that the players are serious, and a deal can get done in the next few days.
 
Cyrone Torbin said:
When did Fisher rejoin? Has there been an article about it? Last one I read said he wasn't apart of it.
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All of the national guys that are following the lockout have commented on it. Today was his first day back.

Sam Amick (SI): "So Derek Fisher joins the talks in NY today. And as has been noted, he wouldn't do that without some feeling that a deal could be done."
 
Amick also tweeted not too long ago: "NBPA Executive committee members privately expressing unprecedented optimism that a deal will get done this time. League sources too."

Either a deal's getting done or the NBA is about drop a nuclear bomb on the players and try to utterly demolish them.
 
margodydek said:
Amick also tweeted not too long ago: "NBPA Executive committee members privately expressing unprecedented optimism that a deal will get done this time. League sources too."

Either a deal's getting done or the NBA is about drop a nuclear bomb on the players and try to utterly demolish them.
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What would the nuclear bomb be? They are already being sued over the 47-53 ultimatum and Kessler is not attending. The talks are amicable.
 
GVC said:
If the majority of owners want it, if it weren't for the leverage the owners have as a cartel, revenue sharing would be on the table. Because the NBA represents the only venue for professional basketball in America, and because the owners are far more insulated than the players, they can continue to play their game of chicken and demand that the players cave into all their demands. It makes perfect sense why the players would be threatening to decertify. Hopefully the owners realize that the players are serious, and a deal can get done in the next few days.
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I think it's on the table it just isn't part of the CBA negotiations. This has been a bone of contention. The players think it should be part of the CBA and the owners think it should be separate from the CBA and resolved between the owners after the CBA has been approved.
 
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