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margodydek said:
Unless you're the guy (or girl) signing the checks, then, save anything illegal or immoral, you usually have to fall in line w/ their requests. No one's forcing these guys to play in the league.
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Actually, they are being forced to not play in the league. It's a lockout, not a strike. The owner can go wityout any CBA, if they so choose.
 
millers own over 95 businesses and employ alot of people . give hundred of thousands of dollars to charities every year. yes they do earn there money and if you know anything, larry miller is a self made millionaire. not by giving it away to under educated cry babies. try this go to your boss and demand 57 cents of every dollar made by there company and tell them your not working if you don't get it and write back and let me know how fast you got fired.
 
All this has me so incredibly pissed off.

I was on tweeter before, during and after the press conference and reading player tweets made me lose what little respect I had left for a lot of the players. 90% of them were not talking about anything to do with the lockout, the lawsuit or anything basketball related. They were just tweeting their nonsense like usual. They obviously had no clue what was going on nor cared. How do they not care or pay attention to all of this? It blows my mind that this players who have million and millions at stake couldnt care less about all this.
 
LjJazzman said:
All this has been so incredibly pissed off.

I was on tweeter before, during and after the press conference and reading player tweets made me lose what little respect I had left for a lot of the players. 90% of them were not talking about anything to do with the lockout, the lawsuit or anything basketball related. They were just tweeting their nonsense like usual. They obviously had no clue what was going on nor cared. How do they not care or pay attention to all of this? It blows my mind that this players who have million and millions at stake couldnt care less about all this.
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I feel the same way. I'm pretty fed up with this whole situation. Every day I get less and less interested in basketball at all. It's just too frustrating. Hopefully I still have the desire to watch when all this is over.
 
Insane. How much better of a deal do they really think is reasonable at this point? What are the odds that the owners simply buckle up and fight tooth and nail to the bitter end? One benefit the NBA owners have over the NFL owners is a better utilization factor of their venues. It is easier to rent out the space of a 18k seat enclosed stadium, thereby recouping some revenue, than it would be a 50k+ seat open-air venue.

Here is another question: could this potentially herald the end of the NBA as we know it? What if the owners closed up shop for 4 or 5 years? Most of the leadership of the players association would have lost their careers at that point (Fisher, Brand, Kobe, KG, even LBJ and others would be done or close to the end of their careers at that point). Then there would be a glut of young up-and-coming players that have been playing overseas with some experience and rookie-level contracts. Then the owners rebuild the league.

Probably not very likely at all, but that kind of scenario could be possible. The players are nuts to think it is completely out of the question.
 
TheItinerantSon said:
nobody knows what to expect at this point: “It is impossible to predict what is going to happen,” said Gabe Feldman, a sports law expert and professor at Tulane.

but they do know that after giving the owners back 7% of BRI they still couldnt get a deal that didn't dramatically hinder Free agency and wasn't a slow road to the end of guaranteed contracts...it can't get worse in court."]


Also, do you guys realize that because the leagues proposal would have taken salary over-runs from the next years cap, that basicallly big-market teams that could afford the luxury tax would have been able to lower their competitors cap space?
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Sure it can. If they lose their anti-trust lawsuit their deal is going to get significantly worse. They lose that battle and they have 0 leverage. At that point why would the owners even offer the deal they just did, at that point? I don't know who will win the legal battle but a precedent seems to have been set when the NFLPA lost the 2nd battle in court. The 1st decision was overturned before the players even got to work out.
 
AlaskanAssassin said:
They are free agents in the NBA world, but not to the profession of basketball. They can choose to play wherever they want to play basketball, China, Europe, South America, Japan, NBDL, Slam-Ball, bets on H-O-R-S-E.

Restrictions as to where they can play in the NBA have little to do with their options to live where they want and earn a living.

If they are to be truly "FREE" to work wherever they want in the NBA, then there can't be ANY restrictions on salary-cap, bird-rights, contract length, etc. All the stars would play in NY, LA, Chicago, Miami, etc. All the other teams would be garbage.
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None of the other teams would exist and then the league would not exist.
 
LogGrad98 said:
Insane. How much better of a deal do they really think is reasonable at this point? What are the odds that the owners simply buckle up and fight tooth and nail to the bitter end? One benefit the NBA owners have over the NFL owners is a better utilization factor of their venues. It is easier to rent out the space of a 18k seat enclosed stadium, thereby recouping some revenue, than it would be a 50k+ seat open-air venue.

Here is another question: could this potentially herald the end of the NBA as we know it? What if the owners closed up shop for 4 or 5 years?
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Excellent!
 
kim chadwick said:
players may wake up once the accountant calls and tells them they have to sell a car or two and the summer home has to go, the furs and the wife has her jewlery taken away. or maybe not because i am sure most of these players since the graduated from school will just become lawyers ,doctors,fireman or police officers to fill there money needs.
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....say, you may be on to something! They might be able to make some side money by signing up to be on "Repo Man!" Sonya would sure enjoy repossessing some of these high priced items that these clowns will surely be losing! But then again, she'd probably cut them some slack as "partners with tattoo's!"
 
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