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LOL at delusional BYU fans

Duck Rodgers said:
And Harvard and Yale are football powerhouses.
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What do Harvard and Yale have to do with anything?

You discredited the recent history as too small of a sample size, so don't complain when someone brings up the entire history.

If Harvard and Yale had 2 BCS Bowl wins in the last 5 years then you might have a point.

So much for Utah always having been losers, and always will be losers, with no history of winning conference championships, lol.
 
SaltyDawg said:
What do Harvard and Yale have to do with anything?

You discredited the recent history as too small of a sample size, so don't complain when someone brings up the entire history.

If Harvard and Yale had 2 BCS Bowl wins in the last 5 years then you might have a point.
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Why? Because you guys appear out of nowhere every 100 years and have a couple of good seasons? OK, if we are going with the entire history.....nobody on this board was alive during Utah's glory years. Fair statement?
 
Duck Rodgers said:
As I have pointed out numerous times on this board, Utah does NOT have a history of winning conference championships. Those are the facts, not your little sample size. I expect you guys to revert back to those days and I think that's a very reasonable opinion considering your history. You guys are losers, always will be.
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lol, keep waiting for them to revert. You really seem like a sad, bitter, little man. How far do you want to go back? Would you like to stop in the 80's (I'm sure you'd love that), or should we look at the entire rivalry? Do you really just want to isolate the WAC years in this argument? That's just.....sad.

And the "losers, always will be" quote? Classic bitterness. Funny how Utah will "always" be losers yet they own a decent advantage in the overall standings in this head-to-head contest. And before you try and play the card that I'm going too far back, you're the one that chose to bring the word "always" into this argument.

The funniest thing of all this: You and Conan post **** like this all the time and then try to call people like me "haters". The fact is, you don't see me calling BYU a "rubbish" program, because I'm smart enough to realize that these two schools are much closer than either fanbase would like to admit. Don't get me wrong, I hate BYU with a healthy passion, and will never pass up a chance to talk **** on them, but that's completely different from acting like your school is so much better than the other when it's clearly not.

Yes, since the MWC years Utah has had more success than BYU. No other way to spin it. But, they've still remained very close in the level of football being played at each school. Perhaps if you didn't have your head so far up your arrogant ***, you'd be able to see that. Douche.
 
Duck Rodgers said:
Why? Because you guys appear out of nowhere every 100 years and have a couple of good seasons? OK, if we are going with the entire history.....nobody on this board was alive during Utah's glory years. Fair statement?
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Utah's glory years? You mean the last 5 or 10 years?

More like most of this board was either not alive or too young to remember BYU's glory years.

We don't appear out of nowhere every 100 years and have a couple good seasons. Check the link- Utah has a better head to head record than BYU, has a better all time overall record than BYU, has more bowl victories than BYU, more conference championships than BYU, and more undefeated seasons than BYU.

And if you just want to talk about one little specific period of time, then don't call out Ute fans for only talking about the last 10 years.
 
I think it would be fair to compare, you know, when the game of football actually resembled the current game of, you know, football. Maybe I'm crazy thinking that's a fair starting point for comparison, but I'll let you guys decide whatever feels good to you.
 
SaltyDawg said:
Utah's glory years? You mean the last 5 or 10 years?

More like most of this board was either not alive or too young to remember BYU's glory years.

We don't appear out of nowhere every 100 years and have a couple good seasons. Check the link- Utah has a better head to head record than BYU, has a better all time overall record than BYU, has more bowl victories than BYU, and more undefeated seasons than BYU.

And if you just want to talk about one little specific period of time, then don't call out Ute fans for only talking about the last 10 years.
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You guys have won 3 conference championships in the 00's and shared 2 with us in the 90's. Other than that, 1957 is your next closest. What don't you understand? That's pathetic. We've always been in the same conference, no?
 
I'm a BYU fan and I''d probably have to vote for independence as the worst offseason move out of the choices given, especially if taken at just face value.

1. Yes, Boise State was probably hoping to be in conference with 3 other football powers. No doubt the MWC could have received an automatic BCS berth at the next review. But the MWC is an upgrade over the WAC for now.
2. Utah to the Pac-12 was a no brainer. Congrats to the Utes on a HUGE step up. And once they become full partners, that $15M in TV revenue (or whatever it will be) will sure be nice.
3. Colorado and Nebraska. Lateral moves, IMO. In Nebraska's case, they hated Texas, which was holding the conference hostage with their revenue demands. Colorado goes to the coast to play games instead of the Midwest. Meh.

So it comes down to BYU. Yep, very risky. Absolutely NO shot at a BCS bowl in the next few seasons. But they get a hellluva lot more money and national exposure on ESPN. Make no mistake; this is about becoming a player when the next round of expansion occurs. They'll be in one of the "Big" conferences when those expand to 16 teams each. The Pac-12 will likely go after a couple of Texas schools and probably Boise State. College football is headed towards FOUR 16-team SUPER conferences. From there, you could very easily have conference championship games to determine the 4 quarterfinalists, then have say the Orange and Rose bowl host the semifinals and the winners square off in the Fiesta for the National Championship.
 
Duck Rodgers said:
I think it would be fair to compare, you know, when the game of football actually resembled the current game of, you know, football. Maybe I'm crazy thinking that's a fair starting point for comparison, but I'll let you guys decide whatever feels good to you.
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I think a fair starting point is probably when both teams joined/created the MWC. That was what, about 10 years ago? That seems recent enough to still be relevant but far enough back to get an idea of what to expect going forward.

Duck Rodgers said:
You guys have won 3 conference championships in the 00's and shared 2 with us in the 90's. Other than that, 1957 is your next closest. What don't you understand? That's pathetic.
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The Utes have won the MWC 4 times. Period. What's pathetic is when some BYU fan says Utah has no history of winning conference championships, has always been and will always be losers, and he expects us to revert back to our old self. But when it is pointed out that Utah has more conference championships than BYU, more all time victories, more head to head victories, more bowl victories, and more undefeated seasons, all he can do is back track.

I don't know if it's pathetic or hillarious...
 
Bottom line Salty, make this season a positive experience for you and bet the farm on BYU -1 @ Air Force this weekend. That way when you look back on 2010's college football season, at least you can say you made some ****ing money while your Utes were entering into their next lost century.
 
Duck Rodgers said:
Bottom line Salty, make this season a positive experience for you and bet the farm on BYU -1 @ Air Force this weekend. That way when you look back on 2010's college football season, at least you can say you made some ****ing money while your Utes were entering into their next lost century.
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So Utah is heading to a BCS conference, while BYU is heading to the WCC, and you are saying it's Utah who is entering the next lost century?

Again, looking at the overall records of both teams, overall head to head records, overall conference championships, overall bowl victories, and overall undefeated seasons- it was not the Utes who lost the last century.

We can go by recent history, or we can look at all time, Utes are better in both instances. The only time BYU is better is if you look at some random time period from a long time ago (too far back to be considered recent history), but not all the way back to the beginning.

How funny would it be if Utah went to another BCS game the year before they join a BCS conference?
 
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