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Looking for genuine discourse re: Donald Sterling/NBA

nightmare3983 said:
The NBA (and the owners) are setting themselves up for a big legal battle over the issue of making Sterling sell the Clippers.
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I'm sure. I completely support Sterling's right to take this to court. He should be able to have legal recourse.
 
VINYLONE said:
I was completely misunderstanding you, dutchbro. Completely. It's not that you want freedom of speech, it's that you want freedom from consequence. You want to be able to say whatever is on your mind without any recourse.
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i dont want freedom form consequences.
i also want privacy.

with the ever changing world. when it comes to electronics the world has gone out of wack.
there will be no privacy
for example google glass.

it wont be long before you cant say anything for fear from being "prosecuted" in the court of public opinion.


seriously bro i am worried. cus i have gay friends and acquaintances. but i seriously have my strong opinion against gay marriage WILL always have that. it WILL not chance.

so now i cant express those opinions/concers in the privacy of my own home because there might be super harsh conesquences.

look i get that if i go to a hells angels rally and say certain things there will be consequences.


but bro seriously saying something in you home and getting these harsh consequences.


it is sad to see the same people celebrate a right taken away a right their forfathers have fought and died for
 
Surely said:
I guess I would rather see the free market punish the guy (by players agreeing to not play for his team, by fans not supporting his team or his other business interests) than the gestapo sweep in and lay the hammer down. There are societies currently and in history where people are/were unable to voice their opinion. Do you really want to become like them? And since when did America become a land where people were unable to have an opinion? Even a wrong one? (Disclaimer, I am not agreeing with what he said.)
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You're missing the forest for the trees.

The free market IS punishing him. He signed a contract/ charter which has bylaws/ stipulations (I might have the terms wrong) and he must abide by them. He still has his opinion and he still has the ability to say whatever he wants. He could start his own youtube channel and have the "David Duke Hour."
 
franklin said:
The purpose of government is to protect our rights when others attempt to take them away. This will make a very interesting court case if it comes to that.
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Yeah, but that doesn't answer the question. Where, in this case, has congress made any law abridging the freedom of speech?
 
also this crap about him basically agreeing to act in a certiain way because he signed a nba contract. is null and void.

the nab cant take away your amendment rights.
NOBODY CAN take them away.

or atleast thats what it supposed to be but as we now know the constitution is just a piece of toilet paper obama wipes his *** with
 
DutchJazzer said:
i dont want freedom form consequences.

look i get that if i go to a hells angels rally and say certain things there will be consequences.
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Of course you do. You want to be able to say whatever you want without and sort of consequence. The world has never worked like that.

As far as the Hell's Angels go. That's a great example. I'm sure the US constitution covers any rally those folks have in this country but I would be rather careful what I say at one...especially if it has anything to do with the Mongols being better than they are.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3qWrVvCKNlQ

I want freedom from consequence!!!
 
VINYLONE said:
You're missing the forest for the trees.

The free market IS punishing him. He signed a contract/ charter which has bylaws/ stipulations (I might have the terms wrong) and he must abide by them. He still has his opinion and he still has the ability to say whatever he wants. He could start his own youtube channel and have the "David Duke Hour."
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no matter what contratc you sign you cannot sign away your rights.

so basically he signed away his right to freedom of speech and privacy?

THATS NOT POSSIBLE!
 
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