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Looking for genuine discourse re: Donald Sterling/NBA

This may not be popular, but realistically "they" should do nothing to the man. He is entitled to his opinion as much as the next guy. If he were on a nationally televised interview or something and said those things as a spokesperson of the NBA he should be subject to the NBA's conduct clause if such a thing applies. He said it in the supposed privacy of his own home and the only reason anyone even knows about it is his gold-digging "girlfriend" trying to win the lottery in law suits and notoriety. I know there are plenty of things my wife and I discuss I would never want aired on TV and we should be entitled to that privacy especially if it is in my own home. Just my $0.02.


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That is, for THIS particular case. For all the **** he did publicly he should have his ball squashed by a bi-curious sumo.
 
This may not be popular, but realistically "they" should do nothing to the man. He is entitled to his opinion as much as the next guy. If he were on a nationally televised interview or something and said those things as a spokesperson of the NBA he should be subject to the NBA's conduct clause if such a thing applies. He said it in the supposed privacy of his own home and the only reason anyone even knows about it is his gold-digging "girlfriend" trying to win the lottery in law suits and notoriety. I know there are plenty of things my wife and I discuss I would never want aired on TV and we should be entitled to that privacy especially if it is in my own home. Just my $0.02.


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That is, for THIS particular case. For all the **** he did publicly he should have his ball squashed by a bi-curious sumo.

I get what you are saying, but the nba has to protect their bottom line. If the players start leaving because they know that a racist owner is in power, the league will lose a ton of value. Integrity aside, there are literally tens of thousands of jobs in the nba that could be at stake with the amount of employees aside from players each team has. That's a ton of responsibility. Had it been a private thing that had not been leaked to the news, it probably would not have been a huge issue, even if it was known generally around the league.

It's about time though, this guy has been a huge douche for decades.
 
I am SICK of hearing how PROUD they all are of themselves for standing against racism.

Don't even want to watch basketball at all tonight.

Way too much self-aggrandizement. UGH.

just STFU please
 
I get what you are saying, but the nba has to protect their bottom line. If the players start leaving because they know that a racist owner is in power, the league will lose a ton of value. Integrity aside, there are literally tens of thousands of jobs in the nba that could be at stake with the amount of employees aside from players each team has. That's a ton of responsibility. Had it been a private thing that had not been leaked to the news, it probably would not have been a huge issue, even if it was known generally around the league.

It's about time though, this guy has been a huge douche for decades.

There are generally 2 kinds of consequences to our actions: structured or institutionalized consequences (such as jail time for breaking a law, getting fired for sexual harassment, etc.), and natural consequences (touching the hot stove and getting burned, after getting fired for sexual harassment some of my friends won't hang out with me anymore). In this case, no matter the overall monetary cost, I think the natural consequences should follow. Players should refuse to play for him, fans should refuse to go to the games and refuse to buy merchandise. That is the only kind of consequence that matters if we really decry the racism he espouses. If those things don't happen, then it is a very sad commentary on society in general, no matter what structured consequence the NBA cooks up. If those things don't happen and he loses his franchise due to some NBA rule, but there is no real public outcry that deals real damage as a result then nothing will have been changed at all. Not that I think anything can change his outlook, but removing his franchise is more or less sweeping it under the rug to avoid bad publicity considering the NBA has known about his douche-baggery for years and done nothing. IMO the NBA should be hit by this too for allowing it for so long.

And how sad is it that people would scream outrage and call for his head and his livelihood, but we sure won't refuse to buy our kid the newest Jersey, cuz you know, Jersey's make us look cool.
 
I am SICK of hearing how PROUD they all are of themselves for standing against racism.

Don't even want to watch basketball at all tonight.

Way too much self-aggrandizement. UGH.

just STFU please

You hit the nail on the head Moe. THAT is how we show them we won't tolerate it, not by making grandiose posts in some thread on a fan forum, but by actually doing something that will have an impact on them for their behavior. Repped.
 
I am SICK of hearing how PROUD they all are of themselves for standing against racism.

Don't even want to watch basketball at all tonight.

Way too much self-aggrandizement. UGH.

just STFU please

If they actually, truly cared….they would have done something years ago.
 
He trusted a gold digger with his thoughts? Don't think that's at all analogous to you and your wife discussing thoughts.

I guess you can split that hair as far as you like. He spoke his opinion in his own home to someone he was intimate with. Not that big a stretch.
 
I was trying to analyze only this conversation to determine IF he was a racist/bigot.

First, I would like to apologize to you. Someone sent me a PM alerting me to the fact that you are actually a woman. I'm not sure why you didn't correct me before. Sorry about that. It's funny that I thought you were a man, but ending up being a woman. When I first started seeing Archie post, I thought he was a woman and he turned out to be a man. Go figure. Sometimes gender bias is lost in translation on the internets.

I do appreciate your posts, though I don't agree with all of them.

This may not be popular, but realistically "they" should do nothing to the man. He is entitled to his opinion as much as the next guy. If he were on a nationally televised interview or something and said those things as a spokesperson of the NBA he should be subject to the NBA's conduct clause if such a thing applies. He said it in the supposed privacy of his own home and the only reason anyone even knows about it is his gold-digging "girlfriend" trying to win the lottery in law suits and notoriety. I know there are plenty of things my wife and I discuss I would never want aired on TV and we should be entitled to that privacy especially if it is in my own home. Just my $0.02.

You are absolutely correct. He is without a doubt entiled to his opinion. And he still has it. He has an opinion until the day he dies. He also is able to say whatever he wants at whatever time he wants. He's afforded that ability. But as others have mentioned, depending on the time and location of where he decides to say these things, there will always be a chance of consequence. In this instance, he was stupid enough to fall for the okey doke by some hoodrat.

You bring up your wife and the things both of you have discussed in private. Many a men and women have had their spouses bring up private conversations in divorce hearings. It happens. Is it moral? Who knows, that's another discussion. But it happens. Life is life and confidences are betrayed all the time.

In respect to Sterling, many CEO's over the years have been issued a vote of no confidence and subsequently fired as a result of their incompetence. In most of these situations, the bottom line was the deciding factor. This is no different. Furthermore, that the CBA calls for a 2/3's vote in order to get Sterling to sell the team shows me that this is being done in a legal fashion.

I am SICK of hearing how PROUD they all are of themselves for standing against racism.

Don't even want to watch basketball at all tonight.

Way too much self-aggrandizement. UGH.

just STFU please

Who is they? Is there a chance that over the years, many of these players had certain interactions with this man and this is finally a "ding dong the witch is dead" scenario. Unless I'm wrong, aren't all the other instances of his racial charged statements just allegations and never actually proven? And now, as a result of a good whoore, a "that's the ticket" moment has happened? You should watch the Steven A. Smith interview with Skip Bayless. Smith touches on a time where he met Sterling for the first time and how nice Sterling was too him and as soon as he left, Baron Davis walked over to him and asked him if he knew who he was talking to and what the man stood for.

Not that I think anything can change his outlook, but removing his franchise is more or less sweeping it under the rug to avoid bad publicity considering the NBA has known about his douche-baggery for years and done nothing. IMO the NBA should be hit by this too for allowing it for so long.

Is there a chance that there was no recourse before? Most of his racial trangressions were done outside of the league. No?

You hit the nail on the head Moe. THAT is how we show them we won't tolerate it, not by making grandiose posts in some thread on a fan forum, but by actually doing something that will have an impact on them for their behavior. Repped.

I disagree. I think hitting him where it hurts the most is the right move.

If they actually, truly cared….they would have done something years ago.

I don't think they could.
 
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